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What do you think Nokia should do in firmware 13 f...

Counsellor
Posts: 184

Re: What do you think Nokia should do in firmware 13 for the N96 to make it better?

Priorities

#1 Get the basics working reliably. eliminate the hangs/crashes, improve battery life & performance

#2 reinstate function that was removed ie VoiP client

#3 new stuff....

 

My whinges here

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grschinon
Posts: 9,568

Re: What do you think Nokia should do in firmware 13 for the N96 to make it better?

#2 is not going to happen, it's final.

I hold it from Charlie Schick that the VoIP guys have plainly and simply moved on. There are no plans to develop a generic SIP client for the N96.
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Advisor
Posts: 11

Re: What do you think Nokia should do in firmware 13 for the N96 to make it better?

Make the wireless networking compatable with wireless standards, I purchased the N96 for its wireless but after 3 phones it still does not work and keeps crashing out with Gateway failed to respond.

 

My older N93 works just fine where my N96 does not, clearly proving that it is Nokia's implementation of wireless on the N96 that is at fault.

 

PLEASE FIX or it eill be the last Nokia I ever purchase.

BTW, firmware v12 is installed and made no difference at all.

 

 

 

 

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Counsellor
Posts: 184

Re: What do you think Nokia should do in firmware 13 for the N96 to make it better?

Putting ide the VoIP debarcle, the N96 does seem especially poor in terms of performance, stability. I can only hope we'll see further updates that at least address these defects.

 

What I'd like from my phone (as an expert user/sw engineer) is a far more flexible environment which is easily updatable to current software versions, just as my linux based 3 year old laptop is quite happily running fedora rawhide, or like my 5 year old PC running Windows .

 

Of course that throws up all sorts of commercial, support, security issues, and provider acceptance, but I'm hoping we'll see more of this if Android takes off, and perhaps as Symbian comes more open (not so sure there.

 

I'd also like to see a far more effective open way of reporting & checking on status of defects, along with hints/tips on debugging, capturing data for analysis etc. Right now S60 is ridden with defects IMO.

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Advisor
Posts: 13

Re: What do you think Nokia should do in firmware 13 for the N96 to make it better?

Since mine crashes when I am reckless enough to open the slider or try to answer a call I would suggest the best update would be from the current firmware to an iphone. I feel traitorous for saying it as I am normally a fan of the nseries but I have reached the end of my tether with this phone; the phone just doesn't feel like it has been tested at all. Any future firmware should focus on stopping the thing from crashing all the time. Extra features would be nice but some stability is a must
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Counsellor
Posts: 184

Re: What do you think Nokia should do in firmware 13 for the N96 to make it better?

I absolutely agree. Just earlier today the phone crashed today. I'd started it up (which takes far too long), had connected via 3G and opened up opera mini. About a minute later I started Fring! and Bang! did a wam reboot.

 

 *Only* use the base phone capabilities and it might be stable. But anything else and it quickly demonstrates its instability. No excuses about applications. The OS is there for a reason.

 

It really is the slowest most unstable phone I've used in a long time.

 

 BTW if Nokia is listening and can point me to a venue for sensibly working through the PD of these issues a la bugzilla, with feedback etc I'd be delighted to use my SW engineering skills to help fix and improve the product. That means capturing scenarios, traces etc.

 

 

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Contributor
Posts: 10

What do you think Nokia should do in firmware 13 for the N96 to make it better?

It would be useful if they got this $900 phone to just work. This is my 5th or 6th Nokia in a row and I never thought I would have so much trouble with one of their phones. It's slow. It cost me more than a full spec Dell laptop I bought recently and yet it crashes when I switch from one appplication to another.Connecting to public Wi-Fi networks is an ordeal and the Bluetooth does not work in my car. All my previous Nokia's did.The web browser is ridiculously slow. I regularly have to remove the battery just to restart the phone after a lockup.

 

I'm sure that plenty of people will tell me that there are workarounds and tricks to avoid some of these probems but why should I have to struggle to get basic functions working ?

 

What's the point of having impressive specs if the system is unreliable ? If this is Nokia's attempt to beat the I-phone then the guys at Apple must be laughing their heads off. My wife has an I-phone so I know what it can do. The specs of that phone are not impressive BUT IT WORKS.

 

1) Fix the crashes

2) Improve Wi-Fi

3) Speed up browser

4) Fix Bluetooth

5) General speed up of the phone

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New Member
Posts: 2

Re: What do you think Nokia should do in firmware 13 for the N96 to make it better?

I too agree that the Nokia N96 needs improvements. The 16Gb's memory can hardly handle such dam of the phone as it always crashes everytime i enjoy some dams and pleasure. It's not like the phones gone bang straight off JUST like other phones, N96 is just obviously no far from weak and poor in it's system stability or maybe just flaws in it and needs improvements with better firmwares. Now now don't say i'm trying to be intelligent nerd guy getting deeper into **bleep**s of talking craps. Just that everytime i get into Multi-tasking such as "Checking my bus time table", "Home works and documents" and "Music" all slows the phone down to response "unknown" meaning it's frozen(40% of the times). And what you expect of such a dam when a phone especially the best made by Nokia freezes in the middle of the night??? When i was using GPS navigation at 12:30Am and got lost took 2 minutes for the phone to reboot. You can easily say how much tired i am using the all new N96 that just can't handle it's own stability and speed yet with the 128 Mb ram and 16Gb ram with a speed of above 260Mhz, you gta be kidding me dammit.... I just love it because it is N96 and it's memory, but only if Nokia could make up a firmware to fix all this bugs. I would say N96 is the best. But in other terms Nokia N96 is just an upgrade of N95 with better hardware and battery life, in turns, The public gone crazy for a new phone better than N95, probably the reason to why they extended the memory..yet the system flaws suk...you can easily state how much less work they did for this phone....And so much for doing that, the fans of N96 are no near the end of N96....Nokia You must get real. Shame, you made me get lost in the middle of the night only using one program and that's a GPS?????
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Counsellor
Posts: 184

Re: What do you think Nokia should do in firmware 13 for the N96 to make it better?

I share your pain. I continue to be astounded by the bugginess of the N96 (and I've used around 5 different S60 phones). It hangs at random (esp with GPS),is slow to startup (and at other random times), wifi is a little intermittent, it runs low on memory far more than N95 8Gb (not asbad as N80 though). There's also lots of evidence of "incomplete" feature improvements ie in access point select, and of course the ridiculous voip removal.

 

Each time I look it I think "potential" let down by poor execution.

 

 It's so bad that it's stopped me in my tracks. S60 R5? 5800? N97 -- no way. I don't trust Nokia any more to deliver a good device. Friends ask me what device I have and why. I explain the above. They're going elsewhere too.

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norishor
Posts: 19

Re: What do you think Nokia should do in firmware 13 for the N96 to make it better?

I have the 20.050 firmware on my N96 which is the latest and unfortunately I think the last upgrade from nokia. They have forsaken this phone. It was a big bluff for them. The Bluetooth streaming is still bad. And notice that I use a recommended device by nokia, it is a BH-601. Music stops every 5 to 6 seconds. It is frustrating like hell to listen to your music. Anybody any similar experiences? Anybody solved the problem somehow? Is there something to do about it?
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