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N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

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adrianhughes
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N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

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Hi everyone, thanks for all your advice and comments now that v21.002 has been released here (both on FOTA and NSU) are the changes I have noticed, along with some newly discovered bugs:


NOTE: all the documented features/improvements are performed with the Theme Effects turned on.

The update size from v20.149 to v21.002 is 214kb. Update takes about two minutes to complete.

 





Changes/Improvements/New features I have noticed from v20.149 to v21.002
:


Standby screen:


*When Music Player is operating, and seeing the track name on the screen, and then when one song ends and goes to the next track, the speed at which this happens has almost no lag now compared to 20.149 where it still had some noticeable lag.

 

 


Call log, Contacts and calling function:

*Calling speed (from standby screen to Contacts or Call Log) and transition to call/disconnected screens even faster than 20.149, is instantaneous now.

*Even faster resume of music playback after call is ended, I would say it is instantaneous

*Now keypad tones are enabled when phone call is on loudspeaker, you can hear the tones when pressing buttons, which was previously not available

 

 


Maps:

 

*Maps startup is now almost instantaneous, speed through all the Maps menus very fast

*Switching to different views is very smooth and fast now, i.e. to Map 3D etc.

*Maps version 2.0 week 39 remains the same

 

 

 

Music Player:

 

*When playing music, and playing visulisations and changing the volume, a new volume slider bar appears at the top of the screen.

 

 

 

Camera and Photos:

 

*Updating of pixelation in images (i.e. to smooth the picture out) when zooming in is faster than before

*Going into Details is faster than before, is not full screen view as it was before

*Scrolling speed through thumbnails is only minimally jerky now, transition back from playing videos to the Photo Gallery is now smooth and no blockiness appears

*More menu options added, not sure if all of these were already in 20.149, but they do appear new: Video mode, Go to Photo. Also when keypad is locked and you turn to resume, it says Camera On Standby.

*When going into Scene Modes in Camera, description text is now blue and not white, making it hard to read

*A few changes to the appearance of Flash Options, ISO etc etc in Camera.

 

 

Settings:

 

*When going into the Settings menu, previously it would be able to be seen that the items were being 'loaded' or were 'catching up' - this speed is now very much improved and items appear almost instantaneously.

*Changing Network Mode from UMTS to GSM and vice-versa no longer appears blocky and is now instantaneous

 

 

 

 

Other:

 

*Overall system speed has been improved so it is even faster than 20.149

*Breathing lights come on instantaneously and are now faster

*Naviwheel performance has been tweaked even more, now is very useable in the main menu and has been improved again for the Music Player.

*Help menu speed from loading one article to another is now much faster.

*Msg Reader performance much improved, message display no longer lags when reading of one message has been completed and reading of next message begins

*N-gage application version has remained the same

 

 

 

 

Other documented changes that have been stated by others for v21.002:

*Improvements:

 

Improvements to general stability of phone, Bluetooth audio enhancements, photo UI developments and email upgrades (i.e. Mail For Exchange has been updated).

 

 

*luyul user here on Nokia boards: "I did notice the music player opens a little faster now. As for the volume on the FM trasmitter, it does seems a touch louder.. perhaps 10% or so."

 

*dwedgbury user here on Nokia boards: "Photos - Tag Browser:  still unable to browse photos by tags, dumped out to standby screen".

 

 

 

 

 

I have yet to check all the bugs that were documented for v20.149 in the thread /discussions/board/message?board.id=swupdate&thread.id=45148&view=by_date_ascending&page=1 but I will go about that very soon and document all the changes here in this thread. But so far, so good, the firmware appears to be a lot better and more stable than 20.149. Again, thanks to all users for their current feedback on problems. Remember to be sure to add your experiences with the N78 here!

 


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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

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There's almost no difference between N78 v20.149 and v21.002,so go to see the N78 v20.149 Bug List is fine!

^_^It is really a funny joke the NOKIA has played with us!!!!!

……

Do not repeat this topic,ok?!

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adrianhughes
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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

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Smarsp, in case you didn't read the post, there ARE changes in the new firmware, and the other thread you linked to was writtean by me. As i have written bug list and changelog for the last firmware 20.149 too, and have bug list for 12.046. So i am not repeating because there are changes, and there will be changes with respect to if bugs are fixed or not in this latest firmware update.

 

 


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ok,I'm sorry^

I knew it were all done by you^

But this firmware just makes me a little sorry^

It's not your fault^

^_^

 

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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

Hi guys,

 

We have removed the word 'official' from the titles in this thread as it seems that some users were mistaking this information as being sourced from Nokia.

 

Kind regards.

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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

I think this one remains from v20.149.

 

keypad tones are disabled when the FM transmitter is activated and remain disabled after the FM transmitter deactivates after timeout. keypad tones are reenabled after manually disabling the FM transmitter . Not a major issue, I know, but yet another niggle that hadn't ought to be there.

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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

ah ok, thanks Michaels. sorry about that my bad, I wasn't aware that 'official' was misleading users, I just named it official to make it into the main point that users could discuss all their errors.

 

Thanks Dwedgbury for linking the other thread to this one, so everyone can collate all their discussions in this one thread for the firmware. Appreciate your experiences with N78 as always man.

 

 

I've been using the firmware for a couple of hours now and noticed that some bugs already remain, such as the music player freezing and the lights not dimming after the keypad is locked. Will get back to everyone with the full bug list from 20.149 to see if they have been rectified. Just need a couple of days use to test it all out. So far, the update does seem pretty minor, hopefully v30 will come out later on down the track.

 

 


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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

Hi,

    The update in NSU is above 120 mb but FOTA is just 220+ kb. Why the difference.

One serious bug i had after update to v20.149 was malfunctioning of some java applications.

Could not log into them.This bug has been eliminated . General functioning seems faster

and fone not hanging up as b4 

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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

NSU downloads and installs the whole firmware while thru FOTA it just downloads the new components and imtalls them.
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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

When your update through NSU, it downloads and installs the whole firmware while when you use FOTA, it just downloads the new components and installs them.
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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

I switched my phone off last night with the music player still open.

 

The alarm switched on the phone this morning at the usual time and I pressed snooze. The alarm did not re-activate after five minutes, but was activated when I switched the phone on at about 15 minutes later.

 

So the snooze feature hasn't been fixed. 

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Hi everyone with usage with the new v21.002 firmware, here is the complete list of bugs documented by myself and other users (many thanks to you all) for the v20.149 and also v12.046 firmware, and whether they appear to have been rectified or not: 
  1. Does not allow you to enter the Date and Time or Alarm Clock settings, instead going back to the main menu – FIXED
  2. Carousel menu by pressing silver key, performance is inconsistent, sometimes appearing with scroll bar and sometimes not – IMPROVED, now all entries in the menu have a scroll bar whether they need it or not, performance still slow though when multi-tasking.
  3. Still no N-Gage client embedded within the firmware – UNFIXED
  4. Unable to zoom in the camera/Photos when Music Player is active and FM transmission active – UNFIXED, however volume when just playing Music normally – FIXED, is correct and not adjusted along with the zoom as was before
  5. The Music Player track playing time and name of track does not appear in the place that it should be on the standby screen – UNFIXED
  6. When receiving text messages while the FM transmitter is activated, or while earphones are plugged in and listening to music, the sound output goes through the loudspeakers and not the earphones – UNFIXED
  7. When skipping from one track to another in the music player (through most of the 200 tracks I have), I got to track 190 then immediately pressed to fast forward through that track and the phone froze – FIXED
  8. When Music Player playing song and you go to Carousel menu, the Now Playing entry for the song is for the wrong song – FIXED
  9. When scrolling fast through albums or song list in the Music Player, ‘fast’ text is displayed at the top left of the screen – UNFIXED. Where fast scroll is also carried through to the menu sometimes – UNFIXED
  10. When recording video in low light, the camera flash keeps blinking on and off continuously while video is being recorded – UNFIXED
  11. When exiting an application like Windows Live Messenger or when web browsing and the 3G cuts out, then exit back to the standby screen, instead of the network name being displayed it is replaced with the numbers 999 999 – UNSEEN YET
  12. Not able to add tags to photo, you are able to add tags in the Details part of a photo, but when you enter the Tags option in the Photos menu, the application bombs out – UNFIXED
  13. When people call, sometimes their number is displayed instead of their name which has already been stored in the phonebook for a long time – UNSEEN YET
  14. FM transmitter does not automatically deactivate when a proper Exit is selected from the Music Player – UNFIXED
  15. Left key selection is now worse, in that I have problems unlocking the phone in the Music Player – UNSEEN YET
  16. Problem with the phone and its music library playback, my library was usually fine, but then I chose some songs to play and it sorted the album in the wrong order. Therefore had to refresh library – UNSEEN YET
  17. The phone used to autolock  and the lights would dim straight away, now the phone autolocks but takes another few seconds before it dims the lights – UNFIXED, still occurs on some occasions
  18. The screen backlight remained on for the entire duration of the phone call – UNSEEN YET
  19. In a phone call, when I pressed the left soft key to go into the Options, no menu appeared it just put the call on hold – FIXED
  20. Having to press right key twice or three times to exit menus in the phone – IMPROVED, seems to have been fixed quite a lot to match the other soft key fixes
  21. Phone freezes after transferring music to the device from a PC in Mass Storage mode, freezing after phone asks if “USB synchronization complete, do you want to refresh?” and select Yes. Sometimes prompt appears, sometimes not – UNTESTED YET
  22. When you are in any theme, and have the Theme Effects turned off, then you go into each individual text message to view it, then go to the next message, the screen will go blank and then come up with the next message i.e. no proper flowing transition occurs – UNFIXED
  23. While playing music in the Music Player, and then entering the FM radio (while songs are still playing), the music already being played back stutters for a couple of seconds before it finally goes into the radio application and the radio station starts playing – UNFIXED
  24. When first opening main menu after startup, scrollbar will be displayed though there are only twelve entries. When you enter a sub-menu, and then go back the scrollbar will disappear – UNFIXED
  25. When in Settings > General > Navi-wheel, and then opening Options > Help, the help text about enhancement settings is displayed instead of the one about the Navi wheel settings – UNFIXED
  26. Sometimes freezes when trying to fast forward through a mp3 track in the Music Player, then going back up and selecting the music player in the Active Standby screen – FIXED
  27. When activating voice commands from the phone (push and hold the right soft key), the text label for both left and right soft-keys flashes up with the text “text_softkey” before jumping back to the home screen (with a mini-zoom if you have menu effects turned on) and then launching the voice command app – UNFIXED
  28. Screen backlight doesn’t turn off completely when recording audio in the Voice Recorder application – UNFIXED
  29. Audio not synchronized with video when playing back FLV videos in the Adobe Flash Lite 3.0 Player (i.e. through the file manager) – UNFIXED, tried several several times and it is still not working
  30. When starting up phone, a few seconds after the phone is booted and you press the button to bring up the Task Manager, then tasks such as “carousel” are displayed, then disappear when the phone processes are loaded – UNFIXED
  31. If you are in music player and your phone is set to autolock the keypad after ten seconds or whatever integer you have set it to, sometimes it dims and locks the keypad and at other times it doesn’t lock the keypad – UNFIXED
  32. When Visualisations are playing in the Music Player, and the FM transmitter is also active, the audio plays through the loudspeaker instead of staying transmitted – UNFIXED
  33. When going into Notes in Office applications, and say you immediately press Exit to go back, the menu transitions go all weird as if they have turned themselves off, until you go backwards into the main menu.  This is noticeable in all themes, though most noticeable in the Haze effect – UNFIXED
  New bugs documented:
  1. Phone freezes completely, when I have taken a photo zoomed in then used the Task Manager to exit back to the main menu
  2. Phone freezes completely, when I am looking at Visualisations in Music Player while playing song and FM transmitter is active, then going into the next visualization to have a look.
  3. When Music Player is playing song, and while call is being made, you can hear both the music and the song going through the speaker
  4. When you are in the Carousel menu, and watching the Now Playing song entry, and the next track appears, the scrolling of the song title is wrong. For long song titles, it will scroll maybe half of the song title for a couple of times, then after about three or four go’s it finally scrolls the whole song title
  New features/observations:
  1. that the zoom status in the Photos application (i.e. Zoom 33% etc) now fades out and doesn’t just disappear as in previous firmwares
  2. peak RAM usage seems to remain the same at around 47 to 50MB
  So there it all is, I’m already holding out for v30 firmware even though v21.002 is reasonable in addressing bugs, there are still new ones popping up as well. Thanks other users for their input and reports on bugs too.

 

 


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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

For bug list above, one of the bugs has reappeared:

 

11. When exiting an application like Windows Live Messenger or when web browsing and the 3G cuts out, then exit  back to the standby screen, instead of the network name being displayed it is replaced with the numbers 999 999 – UNFIXED

 

 


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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

Just killed my N78 with latest update. After updating by FOTA gps gone totally wrong, it was showing wrong info, signal was dropping all the time with google maps and sygic or garmin. So i tried to reinstall all by PC, it was stopping few time, but last time phone just did not start again, when i press start button it just vibrate, screen is black.I thing it was problem with new version of software update, because last time i update through PC with no problem, but new update was just stopping, it was trying to install drivers and just stop updating because couldn't find device. 

Just do not understand why nokia releasing updating software every week or so. Common Nokia do it right for change, your updating system is too dificult, do it easier, you are not far from winning.

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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

on note number 10, you wrote that when recording video in low light, the flash keeps on blinking and that this has remained unfixed. Does this mean that if this is rectified we can use the LED as a torch when video recording? Like how it is on the N85 etc etc....
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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

Hi guys! I updating software my mobile n78 to version date 10-3-2009

custom version

21.002.051.1

custom version date

18-02.2009

After that if I try to install any application the mobile is say the file is corrupted

I need to help

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adrianhughes
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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

after having used the firmware for a couple of days, and after a slew of the intial bugs appearing, i can now say that well the phone seems a lot more stable than it did under v20.149, especially with respect to the Music Player. it has not reset or frozen in a number of days, and i have also noticed that:

 

* the speed with which the album runtime at the top of the screen when going into an album to view the songs is now much faster than before and is almost instantaneous

 

i'm sure there are plenty more changes, i just haven't noticed them yet i suppose

 

 


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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

please Help me i cant sent messages after having New firmware 21.002 for N78 all my messages stuck in out box  i have varified my settings from my Sim operator also n thtz Absoultly correct So any 1 there who could help meeee I have also yried reinstall this firmware HELPPPPPPP

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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

I have a problem with Blue&Me system in Fiat Grande Punto car, bluetooth connection isn't automatic and need to connect manually from bluetooth menu
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Re: N78 v21.002 Bug List Thread

i down load the last update 21.002 but still have problem with camera zooming it is not work i must restore the manufacture setting to enable it then after any power off and on it returns again not work

 

 

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