[miamicx4]

Which way do you think is the best and MOST RELIABLE way to update the Nokia Nseries? Which way do you use?

1- Over-the-air
2- Via Nokia Software Updater (PC)

Your Thoughts?

Thanx.

[friedbrains]

i never had any problems with NSU, but i have never tried FOTA as well since all of my past S60 devices did not support FOTA, well that was 3 weeks ago, now i can try FOTA with the 5800, so we will see...

[psychomania]

I've only ever seen one post on here of a FOTA update going wrong. There's several a day of NSU updates going wrong.

I've done three FOTA updates on my N96 so far and each one has been problem free.

I hope FOTA becomes the standard in future as it cuts out the PC which is the cause of most update problems.

Message Edited by psychomania on 26-Dec-2008 08:03 PM

[miamicx4]

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26-Dec-2008 08:02 PM
psychomania wrote:
I've only ever seen one post on here of a FOTA update going wrong. There's several a day of NSU updates going wrong.

I've done three FOTA updates on my N96 so far and each one has been problem free.

I hope FOTA becomes the standard in future as it cuts out the PC which is the cause of most update problems.

Message Edited by psychomania on 26-Dec-2008 08:03 PM

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Did you happen to have anyone calling you or sending you SMS during FOTA update? Would that be a problem?

Thx.

[psychomania · Accepted solution]

It's not possible for anyone to call or text during FOTA.

The update file is downloaded, just like an app then it asks you if you want to update now or later.

When you start the update the phone reboots into a special offline update mode.

It's supposed to be more robust than the NSU. I've seen a video somewhere of the battery being pulled out during an update and the phone recovering.

[nirav_m_suthar]

Best way to update the firmware is the via PC coz there are many reason like it takes less time than any other methods, very secury etc.

[grschinon]

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28-Dec-2008 03:44 PM
nirav_m_suthar wrote:
Best way to update the firmware is the via PC coz there are many reason like it takes less time than any other methods, very secury etc.

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That is absolutely not true.

An NSU update for the N96 at least is a 125MB download or thereabouts.

V10.043 to V11.018 was about 3.5MB via FOTA, V11.018 to V11.101 was no more than a few hundred KB, and V11.101 to V12.043 was once again about 3MB.

FOTA is far more reliable than NSU since there are fewer machines involved (the phone grabs the update directly from Nokia instead of having it buffered by a machine, a machine running one of the most notoriously unreliable operating systems ever created) and therefore fewer points of potential failure.

As psychomania pointed out, there are cases of people bricking their phones with NSU daily on these forums. To date, we have see one case of a failed FOTA update. Draw your own conclusions.

Like our resident psycho, I hope that FOTA becomes far more widespread in the future. It is much more reliable and quick.

Message Edited by grschinon on 28-Dec-2008 04:50 PM

[friedbrains]

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28-Dec-2008 08:47 PM
grschinon wrote:

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28-Dec-2008 03:44 PM
nirav_m_suthar wrote:
Best way to update the firmware is the via PC coz there are many reason like it takes less time than any other methods, very secury etc.

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That is absolutely not true.

An NSU update for the N96 at least is a 125MB download or thereabouts.

V10.043 to V11.018 was about 3.5MB via FOTA, V11.018 to V11.101 was no more than a few hundred KB, and V11.101 to V12.043 was once again about 3MB.

FOTA is far more reliable than NSU since there are fewer machines involved (the phone grabs the update directly from Nokia instead of having it buffered by a machine, a machine running one of the most notoriously unreliable operating systems ever created) and therefore fewer points of potential failure.

As psychomania pointed out, there are cases of people bricking their phones with NSU daily on these forums. To date, we have see one case of a failed FOTA update. Draw your own conclusions.

Like our resident psycho, I hope that FOTA becomes far more widespread in the future. It is much more reliable and quick.

Message Edited by grschinon on 28-Dec-2008 04:50 PM

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although i tend to agree that FOTA should be safer, but i think we might be jumping to conclusions to early, as there are about 91 phones supported by NSU, most of which are updated by the conventional PC way, whereas there are very few that uses FOTA (i knew of 2 handsets), hence the relatively lower incidence of failures...

[grschinon]

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28-Dec-2008 06:19 PM
friedbrains wrote:
although i tend to agree that FOTA should be safer, but i think we might be jumping to conclusions to early, as there are about 91 phones supported by NSU, most of which are updated by the conventional PC way, whereas there are very few that uses FOTA (i knew of 2 handsets), hence the relatively lower incidence of failures...

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That's a valid point.

However, if you reduce that comparison to one model updated via NSU and one model updated via FOTA, which one generates more reports of failed updates?

The N96 seems to have sold pretty well since it was an eagerly-awaited model. There have been 3 firmware updates since its release, all available via FOTA, and how many reports of failed FOTA updates have we seen? One. How many reports of failed NSU updates have we seen on, for example, the N73? (I'm avoiding drawing comparisons with the N95 because that model sold in massive quantities).

Message Edited by grschinon on 29-Dec-2008 11:06 AM

[manistar]

Hey i get a message like cannot unable to download when abroad.
i m using nokia 5610xm and in india

[psilos]

Can someone post the details for setting up the Nokia Firmware Upgrade Server profile?

Thanks

[airamtm]

When I attempt to update over the the phone's Device Manager, it says that there are no available updates. But when I use NSU, there is an update for my phone.

I really want to update my n73 since it's very slow. Specially starting the camera and switching to video/image mode. I've read that the next FW (4.0812.4.2.1) makes the phone respond much quicker than the 4.0736.3.2.1 FW. The thing is I'm afraid to upgrade using NSU since I'm reading lotsa articles about their n73 breaking up while updating with NSU. I'm considering in bringing it to a Nokia Center, but its toooooo far from where I live. I need to travel miles and miles in order to get there.

Can you give me helpful tips in updating my n73 using NSU..?? What do I need to do before and after upgrade..??

Thank you for looking into this. Happy 2010 guys!