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Cannot get dial up networking connections over blu...

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peterh337
Posts: 35

Cannot get dial up networking connections over bluetooth

I could not get the Nokia 700 to connect using bluetooth DUN, to a laptop running WinXP.

Really weird since this has been working for me for years with every other phone.

I am using web/web which is the usual pair, but this is contract internet, not PAYG...

The connection goes through the login/pwd bit OK and then fails when it says registering your computer on the network', with Error 734, terminated.

Googling suggests things like disabling the multilink option but it doesn't help.

I can get a connection using Joikuspot, so maybe this is a good time to drop the bluetooth DUN rubbish :smileyhappy:

 

But, after a lot of googling, it was solved, so here it is for those (many) with the same problem:

One needs to add

+cgdcont=1,"IP","internet"

into the modem initialisation string box (windoze XP).

Totally bizzare. I found a clue to this in some vodafone forum.

Disabling multilink in the Network tab for the network connection is also seemingly required, and this proved quite difficult since windoze keeps putting that option back in.

 

It is curious since the phone already knows the APN because mobile internet works on the phone itself, just by inserting the SIM card. Clearly it uses the auto-APN protocol to get that. Similarly when I use Joikuspot to
use the phone as a modem - no APN config needed there either.

 

One might ask: why use bluetooth DUN when one can just use wifi, with Joikuspot? Well, JS is not a great solution either. It delivers a computer-computer wifi connection which most windoze computers will not connect to, or not reliably, unless configured to ignore all "infrastructure" (i.e. access point) wifi networks. If there is a normal wifi network in range, the laptop will keep trying to use that instead and won't connect to the JS one. Also, JS offers only WEP encryption which while easily secure enough for this type of occassional usage is not correctly supported by many very modern computing devices (it confuses the h*ll out of Apple IOS stuff, for example) which support only WPA etc. Also wifi uses a lot more battery power in the phone than bluetooth.

 

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RiderX
Posts: 86

Re: Cannot get dial up networking connections over bluetooth

This is not correct information.

 

I have no problems tethering an iOS device (iPad) to Joikuspot. WEP is fully supported by iOS. Also Apple and Linux laptops support it as well.

 

Maybe Win-XP is just too old?

 

The advantage of Wifi instead of Bluetooth tethering is the speed: BT is just too slow for present 3G connections.

 

The only disadvantage is WEP encryption which is not very secure if you have some hackers in your neighbourhood. Nonetheless, I never trapped one so far :smileyhappy:

 

 

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Counsellor
peterh337
Posts: 35

Re: Cannot get dial up networking connections over bluetooth

I agree that Joikuspot works OK with the Ipad.

 

I think this is because the Ipad has no user config for "preferring" infrastructure networks over computer-computer networks, so they make the Ipad work with either.

 

Windows  has such a config, which is reasonable because when you are sitting in say a cafe you don't want to be trying to connect to the private wifi the shop uses for its customer ordering terminals :smileyhappy:

 

Windows (XP or not) is not too old!! :smileyhappy: It is a perfectly workable OS, far more productive than the "multimedia consuming" devices like the Iphone/Ipad which cannot be used for any significant creating work.

 

My guess is that Joikuspot cannot implement an infrastructure (access point) network due to hardware limitations.

 

Devices such as the excellent E585

http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/4874/3-mi-fi-mobile-wi-fi-e585

provide an infrastructure wifi network. It works perfectly with everything, immediately.

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Counsellor
bbnaco
Posts: 88

Re: Cannot get dial up networking connections over bluetooth

Kindly note that not everyone has 3G and many cannot afford it.
The point about battery consumption with JoikuSpot is very much valid.
In my case, a PCLinuxOS installation does not like JoikuSpot. It refuses to connect.
So there indeed is some problem somewhere because it does not work for everyone in an expected way.
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