[woodman46]

I am with o2 and am due an upgrade, one of which I can choose from is the iphone. I would like to upgrade to this and then sell to then buy, or go towards, a N97. My package from o2 includes  internet access (pretty well unlimited.)

My question is, should the N97 work OK with o2 as far as appliances such as GPS, internet etc. I am assuming as long as i have a  data package it does not matter what the phone is. Any advice would be useful.

I am sure an expert or non expert on this forum will say this has been asked many times before but I have searched and not found the relevant answer. Thanks   

[rhysgm]

I'm no expert on nokia however I've had the N97 for 2 weeks and will not recommend it to anyone. It's full of bugs and doesn't work properly for most people. Read some of the posts in this forum to find out. Supposedly the N900 is going to be much better and is the production version of the beta N97. As to you specific question I can not help you. Just do NOT buy the N97


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[mo_shef]

What ever you do stay well clear away from N97. You will regret it if you get it. However if you upgrade you have 14 days return policy if you dont like handset.

[matt_t]

The N97 will work fine on O2, I am using one on Simplicity and I am also an ex-iPhone user.

Contrary to what has been said above, I like my N97 and it's working fine. the N900 is due out next month but there's nothing to say O2 will carry it. They still don't offer the N97. I am looking forward to October when Nokia release the 2.0 firmware for the N97.

Message Edited by matt_t on 05-Sep-2009 08:53 PM

[axelj]

DONT!

buy a brick instead...

its cheaper and has almost the same technological evolution!

[matt_t]

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axelj wrote:

DONT!

buy a brick instead...

its cheaper and has almost the same technological evolution!

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How helpful.

[cpitchford]

ooooooorrrr... *ahem*

I don't believe O2 carries the N97 because they recognised the problems with the device..

Firmware v2.0 is due soon apparently so they may start carrying the phone then.. If you can, I'd wait until v2.0 rears its head and then have a fresh look. Hopefully there will be many more people singing praise at that point.. or at least fewer whingers (myself included)

If you can hold out until then, you won't have wasted time on the problematic pre-v2.0 firmware..

Maybe the N97mini might be worth a look when it pop out of espoo.. too.. 

[axelj]

it is...

... for his bank account!

[phatdumi]

Don't get the N97 just yet. Check out FW Ver 2.0 next month and by then N900 will be out have a go at both and then make up your mind.

On top of that  you are watching out for the camera cover as it scratches the lense so I'd be looking out to see wheather it starts shipping with a different mechanisim and there's more check the forums.

[drhowells]

I don't have an N97 (I have an N96) or an iPhone, so I may not be qualified to give advice, but I will give my opinion

I have been a long term fan of Nokia phones, but have to admit recently they appear to have released their best phones about 3 months before they are ready to go to the public. I still love my N96 (even though Vodafone are way way behind on Firmware updates). 

I had a play with my cousins iPhone 3Gs a few weeks ago and I was impressed. It was so quick and responsive compared to Nokia's I have had. It was the first phone I had considered getting after I had seen the N96...... that was until I heard about the N900

I really think that the N900 looks like an "iPhone killer" to quote a phrase.  If it performs like the videos I have seen, it will, at the very least, equal the performance of the iPhone.  Software backing will be an issue, but I really think there will be a massive influx of software for the Maemo OS, once the phone is out.

So, although I am not answering your direct question, I would wait for the N900 to be released before making up your mind.  Although I was impressed with the iPhone, I have very high hopes for the Nokia N900 and think it will top all other Nokia's out there at the moment......

[matt_t]

I have to admit I do like the look of how the N900 is shaping up. However, just remember it's an 'Internet Tablet' first and 'Phone' second. Currently, it's lacking things like MMS. Not sure what else if anything, but that can easily be fixed by a firmware update. It took Apple nearly 2 years to get the iPhone capable of MMS.

Message Edited by matt_t on 05-Sep-2009 09:33 PM

[cpitchford]

The MMS thing is a problem.. I've enjoyed ripping into iphone users "I'll send you an mmssaaaawww never mind"

but at the same time "How bout a video calllaaaawww never mind".. DAMNIT Nokia have produced a handset that has both those problems! 

Implementing MMS should be trivial and really shouldnt' require more hardware. MMS relies on a whole bunch of WAP tech that everyone would like to ignore.. Infact, I wrote a WAP stack for my final year project at Uni so I know how mindblowingly tedious it is..  Anyhow.. they'll probably get around to it.. 3g video and voice calling might require a hardware change.. and certainly a license change

the codecs used in video calls cost money.. once you've bought the phone, its is, as always, very rare to see a new feature that costs Nokia anything more than time.. in this case they'd have to license the codec to make a video call.. I'm more sceptical about video calls.. but much less worried

what really worries me is "line-2" support! 

[drhowells]

I completely agree that the N900 is a phone second and that the lack of MMS may be an issue for some (not for me as I never use it), but because of the way the OS is created, it will be relatively easy for someone to make an app which can handle MMS for the phone. That is one of the main differences over Maemo to Symbian, much easier to add functionality..... I think we may be hijacking this thread a bit with N900 functionality, so for that I am sorry

[rhysgm]

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matt_t wrote:
I have to admit I do like the look of how the N900 is shaping up. However, just remember it's an 'Internet Tablet' first and 'Phone' second. Currently, it's lacking things like MMS. Not sure what else if anything, but that can easily be fixed by a firmware update. It took Apple nearly 2 years to get the iPhone capable of MMS.

Message Edited by matt_t on 05-Sep-2009 09:33 PM

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Sorry to go off topic, I know it's rude of me. However you say the n900 is incapable of sending a text message. There are two things I think all modern phones should have and that's the ability to make a phone call and second the send a text message. Surely Nokia should get this right before releasing the phone. Again I appologies for going off topic and also if I missundertood anything.

[cpitchford]

It won't support MMS, not SMS..

SMS short message service.. (plain old text)

MMS multimedia message service.. (photos, videos, images sound clips etc)

[matt_t]

No, I said the N97 was incapable of MMS, not SMS (text messaging).

[drhowells]

The N900 will be able to send Text Message, but not MMS (Multi Media Messages). So you can't attach pictures, animations and videos to a standard message. I don't use this functionality, so it is not an issue for me, but it is pretty much standard for a phone to send MMS at the moment...

[rhysgm]

You learn something new everyday. Kudos for me being stupid.

[grschinon]

Not only is the N900 unable to send (or receive?) MMS messages, but its 3G subsection is for data only, not for calls. So, that means no high-quality audio for calls like you get over a 3G call, and no video calling.

Remember, the N900 is an internet tablet that also allows you to make GSM calls and send/receive text messages. It is NOT a phone first and foremost.