[babis3g]

Ignore my post up
now i am reading windows can not multitask,copy paste, send files via bluetooth etc i have change my mind
seems symbian is one of the best out

[Akuma07]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-workers-mourn-death-of-symbian-thousands-walk-out/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-will-be-able-to-customize-everything-in-windows-phone-7/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokias-elop-responds-to-googles-two-turkeys-tweet/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-qanda-reveals-more-symbian-and-meego-details-android-explor...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/stephen-elop-there-will-be-substantial-reductions-in-employmen/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-notifies-developers-that-qt-is-out-for-windows-phone-devel/

[cooldudsubho]

Did nokia forget that they are the top phone maker in this world because of only one country.And that country is INDIA.Indian people love nokia and symbian.Nokia without symbian is like a son without his mother. How could nokia make budget friendly handsets without symbian?Though many american websites gave bad review to symbian^3.But still symbian ^3 decvices sold like hot cakes here in india.ANd the reason for it was-N8 was bang for money.Adopting win7 will make prices of nokia's handset increase.And that will mean disaster as far as indian market goes.And losing the indian market will mean disaster for nokia.

[deadprincess]

In case you plan to fire Elop, I'd gladly take his place. And I don't want a big salary.

But I'm sure I will lead Nokia the right way. The way people want it. Concentrating on the best technology with a slimmed down product line with an OS that will satisfy everyone.

I'm awaiting your mail to meet you and sign the contract.

[audiobear]

Given that Stephen Elop is ex-Microsoft, the hook-up with MS seems inevitable especially a his analysis that Nokia has lost its way in the face of competition from Apple and Android is correct.  BUT I fear it's a case of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted.  A move too late.  Windows Mobile may appeal to to business users looking to link with their office applications but milions of home users have already voted with their feet and are unlikely to be tempted back.

Nokia really needs to get a grip on it's OS development: currently it's like the knight who leapt on his horse and charged off madly in all directions (apologies to Stephen Leacock).  And Ovi/Windows need massivley to increase the numbers of apps available for their phones too: they are trailing way behind Apple and Android.  

So, Nokia's next phone with Windows Mobile needs to be a major step forward or it will have lost the plot for good.

Me? After several years with a N95 and then N97, I've deserted Symbian and gone over to HTC and Android.   Shame as the N97 was/is a good phone with huge potential but Nokia's own declaration that it is halting future OS upgrades has sealed its fate. :-(  

[tankslappa]

After my experience of the N97, which I'm just about to buy myself free from, I swore I would never buy another Nokia. I must confess I have bought one since then... An N70 from ebay for £20... It's worth £100 trade in at phones4u!

Nokia really have been lost in the fog for years, Symbian, Maemo, Meego, Qt, they seem to be throwing up ideas left right and centre and then giving up on them. No wonder developers didn't flock, they didn't know where to flock! I thought about getting into Qt. Luckily the Qt SDK is typical Nokia software and even its own example application wouldn't compile!

I'm now learning Android, an SDK and emulator which installed perfectly first time. I've written my first couple of little apps already. I don't even own an Android phone yet!

I would say I hope hope you know what you're doing Nokia, but from what I've seen over the past few years I seriously doubt you do.

Good luck to all the employees who tried so hard to make things work. Sorry all the pen pushers couldn't organise a **bleep**-up in a brewery. If any of you techies could sneak the N97 source out on a pen drive and have a look at fixing it there would be a lot of appreciative people out here!

[babi1987]

IF Nokia had to adopt a new platform for their smartphones,they could have done something much better ,much innovative rather than choosing WP7.IMHO WP7 is still a nascent and crippled mobile OS lacking basic features(eg

multitasking-the essence of smartphones) and until and and unless these basic amenities are added to the OS,the WP7 will just remain a SHINY NON PRODUCTIVE OS with LOTS of BLING,NOTHING MORE.It'll be better if nokia puts the stress on Meego now. 

[Scrannel]

I was originally going to buy the N8 as I have had great luck with Nokia and Symbian in the past.  I bought a G1 (T-Mo) and regretted the purchase as that phone was a real POS.  It was obvious that the wowie aspect of the Android system was over-coming the fact that it was an incredibly poor product.  As I was about to preorder my N8, the Motorola Defy caught my eye because it has wifi calling (a form of UMA).  And not only is this useful where I live (weak signal), but when I'm in Europe I can call and text over a hotel wifi for free.  So... I took a chance.  Honestly, it's a decent phone.  But most importantly, I could also see the writing on the wall.  And, this morning, I heard Nokia is also discussing building an Android based device. 

[Gorkon]

Just got my N8 this week after owning an N97 mini for a year and a Nokia 6650 fold prior.  The N8 is a serious piece of hardware with what really is a sophisticated (_and stable_) OS.  I am in North America and it is unfortunate how the phones and Symbian is percieved and virtually unknown by the general populace.  Could be the total lack of advertising or the continued dumbing down of NA society where only a few in the know can appreciate the advantages of an evolution of an OS.

But really, I think Nokia has rested on it's laurels over the years.  Symbian was way ahead of the competition even just a few years ago.  But the rapid advancement of iOS and Android and the unrelenting level of advertising for Driod and iPhone captured and held the focus of the smart phone generation here in NA.

I remember laughing about all of the hype when multi-tasking was added to iPhone.  Symbian was doing it for years prior, but who would be aware except for the miniscule number of symbian users in NA and people who actually spent the time to research feature for feature and not just go with "what's in" or what's popular.

This is an unfortunate turn of events for Nokia and I hope that WP7 or WP8 (whatever version it becomes by the time Nokia introduces it) that it is lean and feature rich with a configurable and intelligent UI.  Not a lot of large icons and "wizards" and bloated to the point of requiring 1GHZ+ processors and support h/w making smaller and smaller batteries (got to keep that form factor slim) run out in a matter of hours.

There probably will be no upgrade path with Nokia for me beyond the N8.  I will be looking to Android or something else (maybe an underground movement within Nokia to port Meego to N8), but not WPx.   I might even consider purchasing another N8 in a year's time and continuing to run as is.  The OS may no longer be advancing, but it will yet to be out-of-date.

[hrnguyen]

Well there is so much I would like to say about the Stephen Elop (the Microsoft's Trojan horse), but it seem too late, as everything have been set to motion and the virus have already taken over Nokia...what is left is how long the system will survise before disappearing into darkness.

Regarding Symbian^3, well if Microsoft/Nokia want to sell any more phones then it is for their best interest to continue support of Symbian^3 for a few more years, will the release of updates, like what Microsoft is doing with Window XP.  Otherwise nobody with by Symbian^3 handsets and those that already have will sell/exchange/move over to Androir and iSO, and by the end of it all Nokia/Microsoft will lost all of their loyal customers (and trust me once loyal customers leave they never return no matter what you do to your future product, you have lost their trust).

So it is in Microsoft/Nokia best interested to continue support Symbian^3 for at least a few more years.  Anyway enough talk, release update for Symbian^3 already (or you will lose another handset in a few months time).

[deadprincess]

What will happen between January and December 2012?

50 million Symbian devices sold

3 million Elop devices sold

[branu]

http://www.dailyfinance.com/company/microsoft-corporation/msft/nas/institutional-ownership

[andy3196]

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branu wrote:

http://www.dailyfinance.com/company/microsoft-corporation/msft/nas/institutional-ownership

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This seems to put this clarify the situation somewhat

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/02/13/nokia-ceo-elop-to-buy-nokia-shares-asap-to-divest-microsoft-shares...

http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2011/02/nokia_elop_buying_shares_asap_2360756.html

[josef_r]

Something finally positive:

http://twitpic.com/3zfe5u

[mrizalc601]

is it true about PR2.0 releasing?when should it be expected to release

[Law_CH]

Two giant laggards coming together.....

MSFT has the $$$, Nokia is in deep  **bleep**  .....

Maybe better for MSFT to just acquire Nokia.....and make Mokia phones.

[sanjaymehta]

Nokia appears to be where Motorola was a few years ago.

I've moved on to Android - Google Nexus S. Horrible battery life compared to even the worst Nokia I've used (X6). But the user interface and applications make it much more useful than the X6.

I've used a Windows Phone 7 device recently and it wasn't as bad as their other offerings. Time will tell.

[mrizalc601]

is it true about PR2.0 releasing?when should it be expected to release

[icemankool]

I may be wrong here, but it appears that most of contributors here are "persoanal" users.

I would like to put the case for business users....

To be honest, by main concern is that they get the handset right.

One thing Nokia were always good at was providing a useable "positive touch" qwerty keyboard. That was until they reduced the size to BB size as on the E63, E71 etc. I'm still using my 9500 communicator, because I can't "get on" with either the BB size of keys, or touch screen for typing.

I don't like the feel of the H*C Z keyboard, which is the ONLY comparable device out there, until the E7-00 is released. Having used an Android device for almost a fortnight (due to an "upgrade"), I can say that I don't like it! (There you are - probably the only person on the planet that doesn't like android!). I sent it back and returned to my trusty communicator!

Bearing in mind this device is prbably now getting on for 6 or 7 years old, I still get a "Wow, what's that?" when I pull it out.

Unfortunately, and this is where I take issue with Nokia, the support was very short lived, and because it isn't "OVI" compatible, I'm "stuffed" for updates (What's an "app"?!)

I tried to download OVI on Nokia's say so, but it broke the phone, and I had to do a system re-boot. Lack of knowledge at customer services Nokia: Needs addressing!

Ideally, I would like Nokia to re-design the cpu, boards and screens for my device, so I can keep the shell!

As for the Iphone, again it's touch screen with no positive response keyboard, and I think MS is right to at least try to get it's products "out there".

That said my device is Symbian using the original version, with an "upgrade" (1.5.22), and for me, it "does the job".

I can connect to my PC and view and copy documents, send emails, get on the web, etc, there is, for me, apparently no reason to change from symbian, although it would be truse to say that perhaps it has been surpassed by Android, and of course the Iphone.

Bearing in mind that we are probably talking at least a couple of years before we see the first Nokia windows device, it can be expected that all the concerns that have been listed here will be adressed.

For me, I think the solution for Nokia would be to offer the same device(s) with an option of Windows or symbian OS.

Another marketing trick, which Apple did with the iphone in the UK was make it availble only on O2 (although it is now available on Orange). MAYBE, when this much talked about device is finally released, it should follow and be only available on (for example) Orange!

[musiclvr]

I am relatively new to Nokia phones, since 2007. I purchased the 5300 XpressMusic because, well, of all the phone features, I really wanted a good music player. I upgraded to the 5800, X6, and now C6-01. While the music player made incremental improvements, I became very comfortable with the phone, loved the style, and was used to the UI. To my ears,the C6-01 improved the audio fidelity a lot even though it nixed some features like being able to edit track details or save custom audio profiles. nbd 2 me.

However, I also supported the phone because it did not require you to have an account to activate, like iPhone Google phones, had great design, and was java based.

I say the last feature since I do not support or like Windows, use Linux every day, and support open source and open desktop initiatives.

I cannot tell you how disappointed I was when Stephen Elop announced the decision to wed the company's future to WindowsPhone. I say disappointed, not disagree. Something had to be done to stop the loss of market share. I cannot say getting billions of dollars in cash won't help Nokia.

But I won't get back on the Burning Oil Rig. This will likely be my last Nokia phone. I will miss it. How do others feel?