[jehdesai]

im fed up with the v20 firmware ,mainly because its freezes a lot during a call and i have to do a hard reset also the alram fails several times because of which i have over slept at many occassions

i have heard v 21.0.0.18 is in line...anyone has any more info.

[blueoceans81]

same problem with me...nokia plz look into 5800 seriously...

[b3ndill]

This has only happened to me once, yesterday actually. I've owned the 5800 for a month now and it froze when I was ending a call. I had to pull the battery out go get it up and running again and now the user interface is really sluggish. I'm backing my data up now so I can do a factory reset...

[svathis]

I'm experiencing also a lots of freezes after ending a call (especially long calls), but I've noticed that this happens only when I'm also running HandyShell.

Whenever HandyShell is not active (I mean not even in the background), everything seems to be ok. Of course this could just be a coincidence...

Do you have HandyShell running? Does anyone experience freezes without having HandyShell installed at all?

[cycloon]

I've got exactly the same problems with freezing after ending a call, haven't got handy shell installed.

[b3ndill]

The factory reset fixed the sluggishness!

There are a number of thing still troubling this phone. Sometimes when I turn it on the screen goes really dark and scrambled, I have to restart the phone. You must wait until the phone is fully started before you start using it, or else it acts up in a number of ways.

I found out that the problem with the sluggishness was connected to some settings, when I imported the backup I had to skip "user settings" to avoid getting the same sluggishness.

It's sad actually, I'm limited to using this phone for making and recieving phonecalls only since I'm afraid of mucking it up again...

[habiba111]

Is this the firmware that came with the phone or did u guys update it?

Just wondering if there have been changes since the phones were recalled and all that.

[ranjeetmalik]

yes i too want the new FW soon i am fed up of having all these problem...why the developer dont check this FW's before releasing...

[dying4004]

ANY IDEA WHEN V21 COMING UP?

[ddub]

Same here, Ive found the phone hangs at the end of a call quite regularly. Mainly when the other person drops the call rather than me ending the call. I just get a black screen, and the 3 illuminated buttons at the bottom. The only way to recover it is to pull the battery. Apart from that the phone's fairly stable.  Obviously asthetic tweaks and usability improvements would be a bonus in the next firmware as well

[summeractive]

yes i have same experience, the screen froze when the call ended. it will show the incoming call screen and i have to do switch off the device to get it restarted.

[jino_]

In fact the update from the older firmware to the v20.0.012 was a looser step I did it and my phone is actong strangely since.I'm having several problems, callers' name not showing when calling if number stored in international format or not showing in received msg if stored in local format.......

In my opinion nokia must let us dowgrade the firmware, we will loose some features but it is not a big deal.

Or they must fix these bugs in the next update

[dying4004]

WHEN ITS COMING OUT?

[pnicolay]

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dying4004 wrote:
WHEN ITS COMING OUT?

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If they want to fix all the bugs and annoyances reported here... probably in 2017.

It is unbelievable that a mobile phone company as Nokia delivers such a product, knowing that many issues don't exist in phones from Nokia which are at least 5 years old.  Don't they build up experience to improve their products instead of downgrading them ?

[knokknok]

Never mind V21, when is V2 going to be available? I am still runing V1.

[dojones1]

Model: 5800d-1

Type: RM-356

In my case I had upgraded the phone firmware. The phone had been bought with a comparatively early release (12.x.x.x?). After having run with the phone for a month without any significant problems, I upgraded it to V20.0.0.x, when it became available last week. Considering that the firmware had been publicised on the Nokia software update feed on 10th Feb, I figured that this would be a relatively stable release.

Unfortunately after three days with the new firmware and with no changes to installed apps / music / media etc the phone powered up and decided to go on a go-slow.

- It would take minutes for the phone to boot up. Even from the home screen, it can take minutes for the applications menu to come up, including the dialler. I would be left with a black screen (apart from the status icons), while it thinks about what to do next.

- Frequent lockups (requiring battery removal to recover)

- Phone would not transition to power saving mode (screen stays on). 

- Signal strength indicator simply does not work - No signal indicated, despite the phone magically receiving SMS.

- Cannot access the camera (When I hold down the application button, I can see the camera icon, but it never comes up, and I have to close it down manually).

- The phone does not detect when I insert the USB cable.

- I cannot use the 'Factory defaults' option as it now requires a code to change and does not accept the usual suspects '0000' and '1234'.

The really disconcerting thing is that one day after this go-slow started, I actually needed my phone for a real emergency, having arrived first on the scene of a Road Traffic Accident. However, pressing the dialler button and having no response meant that I had to run for a landline to call the emergency services. It was very frustrating not being able to call for the emergency services, and could potentially have been life-threatening.

Needless to say, because I cannot upgrade the phone myself now (as it cannot detect the USB cable), and cannot restore factory defaults (via the GUI), the phone is going back to the shop at the first opportunity. 

Message Edited by dojones1 on 18-Apr-2009 09:24 PM

Message Edited by dojones1 on 18-Apr-2009 09:33 PM

[peterkoay]

If after updating software with Nokia Software Updater, PC Suite synchronization does not seem to work, or your Nokia device shows the error message "System error", restoring the factory settings for your Nokia device may help: Type *#7370# on your Nokia device keypad. You will be asked for a security/lock code. Use the security code supplied with your Nokia device sales package (the default code is 12345), or if you have changed the security code, use your personal code

[aronpresley]

I haven't had those freezing problems yet but the problem is when I try entering the menu page, it takes probably 5-6 secs sometimes and is very slow to react. event the accelerometer is lagging, it takes a bit time to change to the potrait mode or landscape mode, Comparing this When I used my I phone I have never had problems at all with that phone, Everything is so good and smooth ofcourse unless you don't do multitasking and have lots of songs,Well I hate Apple but I love the way they are made, not the features the stability of the phone. I guess Nokia here should look after their products stability.

Message Edited by aronpresley on 19-Apr-2009 03:48 AM

[mafiatounes]

hi to all v21 is out in hong kong woot it will get released in europe soon hopefully!! if someone has a changelog please post..

[dojones1]

Thanks for the tip about recovering factory settings from the dialler. My phone has been up and stable since then with V20.

Would still be keen to have V21 though, especially in light of:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/20/nokia_passwords/

(assuming that the issue is fixed there).