[childofthewo_mj]

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enochcheng wrote:

Thanks childofthewo_m for all the hard work.

You saved my phone from being sold....lol.

Anyway, I've tried the font. And most of the Chinese can be displayed properly (even better than the SDK chinese font). Just that some punctuations got missing.

And the ovi store problem as well...

But other than that, everything are fine now.

By doing all this hard work, you deserve to be an advisor...Cheers

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I missed the "Ideographic Space" Glyph. It is back now in the font I am using... The "Square" you see is the above character. Aside from that CJK Punctuation is complete.

When I was cleaning up the font of empty spaces, I thought $3000 (U+3000) was an empty unassigned mapping so I deleted it. I have re-instated it now.

email me at symbiantouchapps at gmail dot com. I will send you the other file. Also I made the Chinese and Japanese Glyphs same height as the Korean Glyphs and the Bold = Bold, you will notice Nokia is Bold but Chinese is not Bold.

Next is Tibetan and Tibetan GSUB for Glyph Substitution for the Conjunct Syllables/Consonants that use Stacked Glyphs like in Hindi.

Or Maybe I will upload again here tonight.

N8 is stable aside from that? I've been holding off on my own purchase because a) MY supplier does not have BLUE yet, and b) I hear it freezes and dies.

[childofthewo_mj · Accepted solution]

http://www.4shared.com/file/jTZzlcIC/N8-CJK-Font-Add-U3000-MissingG.html

This font contains the missing Ideographic Space character for CJK, U+3000

Bold Face also bolded and Chinese + Japanese at 90% of original to match the other glyphs in the font.

[redalert]

Although not totally relevant but an interesting read...

http://blog.symbian.org/2010/06/09/monotype-imaging-contributes-chinese-font-to-symbian-foundation/

[childofthewo_mj]

Only Simplified Chinese for MYuppy (as described in this blog). Useless! 

"Monotype Imaging contributed the MYuppy™ font to the Symbian platform – the first production-quality Simplified Chinese font for Symbian"

Any Chinese Font should include both Simplified and Traditional.

Although China may be a bigger market, and S'pore/M'sia using Simplified Chinese, Chinese outside of these countries are a mix and need both Traditional and Simplified Chinese.

Kanji and Hanja also uses a lot of Traditional and Simplified Glyphs. Just offering Simplified Chinese Glyphs in a font is a total waste of time.

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redalert wrote:

Although not totally relevant but an interesting read...

http://blog.symbian.org/2010/06/09/monotype-imaging-contributes-chinese-font-to-symbian-foundation/

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[childofthewo_mj]

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childofthewo_mj wrote:

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redalert wrote:

I think in FontForge there is a function to allow you to copy over glyphs that are missing without doing things manually...Which is why using the fonts from the same family would be the best option.

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I'll try that. 

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Awesome! Font Forge Merge is Cool! But why no WIndows Native Support? Had to run on my OSX. Cygwin on Windows? Yuck!

[redalert]

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childofthewo_mj wrote:

Only Simplified Chinese for MYuppy (as described in this blog). Useless! 

"Monotype Imaging contributed the MYuppy™ font to the Symbian platform – the first production-quality Simplified Chinese font for Symbian"

Any Chinese Font should include both Simplified and Traditional.

Although China may be a bigger market, and S'pore/M'sia using Simplified Chinese, Chinese outside of these countries are a mix and need both Traditional and Simplified Chinese.

Kanji and Hanja also uses a lot of Traditional and Simplified Glyphs. Just offering Simplified Chinese Glyphs in a font is a total waste of time.

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redalert wrote:

Although not totally relevant but an interesting read...

http://blog.symbian.org/2010/06/09/monotype-imaging-contributes-chinese-font-to-symbian-foundation/

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The main thing about the blog post is that the font is open source, hopefully they can do the same for traditional chinese font.

I really do hope that Nokia will update their font to support unicode characters.

Anyways I used fontforge-mingw (http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/ms-install.html), which runs FontForge in one installer but don't think it is as stable as running it with the other methods...

[childofthewo_mj]

I use Font Editor on Windows, Font Forge on OS X. Fontographer and Font Lab Studio crashes on opening the Nokia Font.

Hopefully, hopefully... Nokia will provide a single Unicode Opensource OpenType TTF Font. Ever done GSUB Tables for Complex fonts like Tibetan, Hindi,... etc? I am adding Tibetan, Lao and Khmer to my font as well. Wonder if you have any tips.

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redalert wrote:

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childofthewo_mj wrote:

Only Simplified Chinese for MYuppy (as described in this blog). Useless! 

"Monotype Imaging contributed the MYuppy™ font to the Symbian platform – the first production-quality Simplified Chinese font for Symbian"

Any Chinese Font should include both Simplified and Traditional.

Although China may be a bigger market, and S'pore/M'sia using Simplified Chinese, Chinese outside of these countries are a mix and need both Traditional and Simplified Chinese.

Kanji and Hanja also uses a lot of Traditional and Simplified Glyphs. Just offering Simplified Chinese Glyphs in a font is a total waste of time.

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redalert wrote:

Although not totally relevant but an interesting read...

http://blog.symbian.org/2010/06/09/monotype-imaging-contributes-chinese-font-to-symbian-foundation/

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The main thing about the blog post is that the font is open source, hopefully they can do the same for traditional chinese font.

I really do hope that Nokia will update their font to support unicode characters.

Anyways I used fontforge-mingw (http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/ms-install.html), which runs FontForge in one installer but don't think it is as stable as running it with the other methods...

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[childofthewo_mj]

@redalert

RE: Font Forge MingW

When the font window opens, there is no menu bar. How do you get it to run properly?

[redalert]

Extract the zip file for fontforge-mingw and then a fontforge.bat. You will be prompted to open the font file you want to edit and then the normal FontForge with menu bar will be displayed. FontForge will probably be more stable running on OS X.

My knowledge about fonts goes as far as merging two fonts together...so can't help you about the

GSUB Tables for Complex fonts...hehe

Good luck

[a_petrov303]

I have bought a UK N8 but I sometimes need to type in Russian.

What is funny though, Nokia offered in its apps a EN-RU dictionary. Can anyone tell me please how to type a word in Russian for it to be translated in English using the Nokia Dictionary?

Nokia, any thoughts?

[childofthewo_mj]

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a_petrov303 wrote:

I have bought a UK N8 but I sometimes need to type in Russian.

What is funny though, Nokia offered in its apps a EN-RU dictionary. Can anyone tell me please how to type a word in Russian for it to be translated in English using the Nokia Dictionary?

Nokia, any thoughts?

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To type in Russian, try using Modified DayHand Input by Mr. Milk. It works in S60v5 perfect. I am not sure if it will work with N8.

You have to sign the installer.

DayHand Input by Mr. Milk with Russian Keyboard

http://forums.samsungi8910omnia.com/samsung-i8910-omnia-hd-games-applications/6542-dayhand-input-mr-...

http://skyscrapers.ru/files/Opera_by_Milk&coth.rar

To Sign the SiS file go to OPDA.CN, Submit your IMEI. Once they have your certificate online, sign the app and then you get it back immediately.

http://cer.opda.cn/en/

For instructions on DayHand Input by Mr. Milk

http://forum.dailymobile.se/index.php?topic=13370.240

Nokia Dictionary does not even allow Cut, Copy + Paste. It is a useful tool but a Joke.

I made symTranslate (Not Public Yet) but here is a link. Try it with the N8. It is a widget.

http://www.4shared.com/file/5dLFqYYD/symTranslate.html

symTranslate does the following -

Via your 3G or Wifi connection, it should

- allow you to translate from Language A to Language B (this is done via Google Translate API)

- you can edit translated text

- send translated text as MMS or SMS via Nokia Interface

- email function currently not working

- go into inbox and 'transfer' a message to be translated

Let me know how it works.

[childofthewo_mj]

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a_petrov303 wrote:

I have bought a UK N8 but I sometimes need to type in Russian.

What is funny though, Nokia offered in its apps a EN-RU dictionary. Can anyone tell me please how to type a word in Russian for it to be translated in English using the Nokia Dictionary?

Nokia, any thoughts?

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This site is in Russian. Seems someone in Russia was able to modify BaiDu Input to use for Russian Keyboard. I don't read Russki so you may want to translate and help us here!

http://dimonvideo.ru/forum/topic_1728145694/42/0

[childofthewo_mj]

SlideIT from OVI Store. Not sure if it works with S^3

http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Product/SlideIT/symbian/LanguagePacks.php

[kolotei]

When i contact with Nokia support , they even refused to send to nokia care center to have my language pack changed, they told it`s not possible N8, so now they have disappointed customer, returned phone and money losses

[childofthewo_mj]

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kolotei wrote:

When i contact with Nokia support , they even refused to send to nokia care center to have my language pack changed, they told it`s not possible N8, so now they have disappointed customer, returned phone and money losses

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That sucks!

[guyagl]

Want to second that.     Thanks for the hard work.   Got it to work on my N8 also, now if Nokia or some thirdparty would provide Chinese input like the iPhone with handwriting recognition, that would be icing on the cake.

[childofthewo_mj]

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guyagl wrote:

Want to second that.     Thanks for the hard work.   Got it to work on my N8 also, now if Nokia or some thirdparty would provide Chinese input like the iPhone with handwriting recognition, that would be icing on the cake.

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Hand-Writing Recognition. You have to wait. I'm not sure any Third-Party FEP does that.

These 2 FEPs work on the S60v5. In essence, FEP interface did not change much on S60v5 and S^3, might want to give it a shot.

SoGou FEP

http://shouji.sogou.com/download.html

BaiDu FEP

http://shouji.baidu.com/input/

Download the one for the N97 or X6. Let us know how it works.

Swype I assume and hope will come out with more languages. But since CJK is complex, it is not the same as a standard Keyboard FEP. It requires a heavy dictionary in the backend.

[nclmax]

Nokia is really SUCK when come to the modern world!! ... they deserve to fall if the strategy doesn't change... really disappointed.

I have just bought a N8 (after several HTC WM phones, HTC desire and iPhone 3). I soon realised that the N8 that i got (i'm from UK by the way) doen't content Chinese in the language pack. I have quite a few business links with companies in China, which often they will send me sms that content chinese characters. I can read these in the pass with all other phones (i.e. HTC, apple, ...) BUT NOT in latest nokia N8.

Anyway, I have had a search on the internet, found out that in USA, Nokia care centre will be willing to add the language pack for the custormers by changing the phone region code and reflash/update the software of the phone. I then call up the Nokia care centre in UK and explained to them what i need and their respond was "sorry! We can't help you because you bought the phone in UK and Nokia doesn't allow change of the installed language pack. THIS IS THE SYSTEM".... 

...what a suck company policy...WHAT I AM GOING TO DO NOW IS sell off the N8 (or keep it in the store), restart my HTC DESIRE, and try to de-promote/publish on as many blogs and facebook space as possible the USELESS Nokia smartphone!! see what I can do to destroy the reputation on NOKIA!!

An angry and disappointed Nokia N8 user! 

[fkclai]

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enochcheng wrote:

Thanks childofthewo_m for all the hard work.

You saved my phone from being sold....lol.

Anyway, I've tried the font. And most of the Chinese can be displayed properly (even better than the SDK chinese font). Just that some punctuations got missing.

And the ovi store problem as well...

But other than that, everything are fine now.

By doing all this hard work, you deserve to be an advisor...Cheers

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Can you please tell me what procedures did you exactly do to have Chinese displayed on N8? Thanks.

[childofthewo_mj]

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fkclai wrote:

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Can you please tell me what procedures did you exactly do to have Chinese displayed on N8? Thanks.

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http://www.4shared.com/file/jTZzlcIC/N8-CJK-Font-Add-U3000-MissingG.html

S60ZDigi.ttf is here:

http://www.4shared.com/file/icGoLmmd/S60ZDIGI.html

Here is the font with the missing Ideographic Space.

Use Font Editors like Font Forge or Font Creator, Use Alan Wood's Unicode Guide to find the CJK Glyphs, Merge or Copy + Paste what you want into a font you create.

a) Place the 3 fonts + s60zdigi.ttf into MicroSD or Mass Storage Create a Folder \Resource\Fonts and then Reboot.

\Resource should be in the root of either MicroSD or Mass Storage. Inside the \Resource Folder, create a \Fonts folder.