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Re: N95 causes headache & giddiness

New Member
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Re: N95 causes headache & giddiness

Anyone from Nokia who can answer my previous question?

>>There's no interference caused (i.e., beeping sound)by my phone when i make a call or sms or vice versa near a landline which normally happens from other mobile phones. Have other users noticed this as well? Does n95 utilize some new technology? Do you think it has something to do with what i and the others are experiencing?

I was trying to look for answers in other websites but wasn't successful. Hope Nokia Support would answer this...
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nigeltufnel
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Re: N95 causes headache & giddiness

Nokia does not answer here, you need to call your local Nokia for that:
http://www.nokia.com/customerservice

There are millions of people with N95's - and some of these people will get headaches, ear infections, migraine attacks or even brain cancer this year whether they use their phone or not. That's life. So just go see a doctor, most likely the real cause of your worries has nothing to do with any electronic device you are using.
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Re: N95 causes headache & giddiness

im hearing the radio without any device is anyone else have this problem ??


joke...
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Re: N95 causes headache & giddiness

I don't think this is mumbo-jumbo at all. I got an N78 about a month ago. After about 3 days I started getting migraines. I then got a migraine every day for 10 days until I started to suspect the phone and turned it off. I went back to my old phone (N73). The migraines stopped and haven't come back since. I have no doubt that it is the phone that caused them.

Could it have anything to do with the built in WiFi?

If there are other people that have had similar experiences I think we should hear about it.
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asem305
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Re: N95 causes headache & giddiness

i was reading this thread as if it was a science fiction story :smileyhappy: but at the end symptoms like migrain and giddines can't be ignored.
SAR values of the N95 and N95-8GB are 0.49 and 0.79 respectively, and that's way below the american standard of 1.6W/kg (watts per kilogram).of course this can vary between different transmission bands.
anyway i think you should visit a doctor if you're complaining of such symptoms.
you should also try not to engage in long phone calls, and try to use a bluetooth headset if possible.
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Visiting the doctor did not make the symptoms stop. Turning the phone off did. Pretty easy. I'm reluctant to test it again right now because I've got a lot of work on and can't afford to spend half a day laid up.

I don't know that it's the SAR rating that's making the difference, my N73 has quite a high figure too. I'd be more suspicious of the WiFi.

It's up to the other posters if they believe there's a connection or not. All I know is all I know. Common sense does have me wondering about the effects of long term use though.
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el_loco
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Re: N95 causes headache & giddiness

If you suspect the WiFi you can always turn down the WiFi transmitter in the phone.

Settings -> Connection -> Wireless LAN then Options -> Advanced Settings -> Yes

Then Automatic configuration set to Disabled.

Then scroll down to Tx power level and set to lower power.

This will reduce the transmit power of the wlan in the phone.

Still it won't reduce the TX power of all those hotspots you don't know are there!

But this may make you feel better...

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That's good knowledge, thanks. I'll try that.

Where I work there are at least 10 WiFis broadcasting their SSIDs and probably more that aren't. I'm fine with them, no worries. I wondered if having the Wifi transmitter so close to my ear was a factor.

I've got a few days where I don't really need my brain so much so I'm going to turn it back on and give it a try.

There are three different types of signal transmitted by this phone that I'd be interested to learn about with regards to head-fry. I was using each of these pretty heavily throughout the day. 1. 3G mobile, 2. Wifi, 3. Bluetooth with A2DP headphones. With all these going flat out I could probably defrost a turkey in under 1.5 minutes :smileywink:.
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Re: N95 causes headache & giddiness

...not to mention 4. the FM Transmitter as well!
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Re: N95 causes headache & giddiness

Hi guys, 

 

I joined this discussion because I was looking to see if other people got headaches using the N95. I can most definitely attest to the fact that as soon as I put the phone to my ear and call someone, i can a headache in maybe 20 seconds. Its systematic! Now I may be sensitive to mobile frequencies or whatever, but I don't need to be a doctor to know that the phone is causing it since it happens systematically everytime I make a call. I'm thinking of approaching the papers with this issue because this can be very serious. 

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sockatume
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I suppose the way to test it would be to have a friend set up a controlled experiment. Mask the screen with thick card and have a friend give it to you either powered-on or powered-off at random (decided by a coin toss) with you not knowing which. (Have the friend place it on the table, then leave the room, then you come in and use it, to ensure blinding.) Evaluate whether the headaches are more frequent with the phone switched on or switched off. It might take you 50 or so trials to get up to statistical significance, but it'd be worth it to evalulate whether it's an effect of the phone circuitry or just holding the phone against your head. I find it's quite an uncomfortable device to hold, and it may be that you're getting referred neck or arm pain.
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Hi, I narrowed it down to Bluetooth some time ago. If there's heavy Bluetooth going on around me I get a migraine. There's a subtle difference to the way it feels compared to a 'normal' one. When I originally posted I had bluetooth on all the time. Now i don't use it and I get on with my phone fine.

 

Thanks to all the other posters but I don't need to go to a doctor.

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sockatume
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I think I may have tracked down the origin of this problem. I wrote it off as just one of those odd things first time around, but then I read about N95s giving out a ringing sound near the earpiece (maybe from the screen backlight) in operation. So I figured, maybe that noise was giving people headaches and disorientation, even if they can't actually distinguish it in most situations. Well, I have an N79 now, and it gives me a high pitched ringing sound from the earpiece on UMTS calls, and after a minute or so my head starts to split and I feel a bit "off" and generally irritable. Sound and headache both go away when I switch to GSM, and I've never had it on any other UMTS device.

 

So there you go, maybe whatever you're doing that's getting rid of the headache is removing whatever interference gives that whining sound

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Re: N95 causes headache & giddiness

Hello,I have a Nokia N95 and started to have kind of headaches - as soon as I put the phone to my ear it hurts.

I don't understand people saying it is not possible, it is not because they are so lucky to not have the problem that it means it isn't true. 

The problem is real + It is obvious it comes from the phone! Only by moving from and to my ear again, I can feel the radiation. I think that is quite scary.

My colleague went to the doctor because she had the same problem and  she has the same phone.

This is not simply a coincidence. Anyway just wanted to share my experience.

bye.

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Many years ago (15!) I was reading an MSc in Audio Engineering and for my project I was attached to CRL (Central Research Laboratory - part of EMI Electronics). The majority of scientists and engineers there had one of more doctorates. One of my supervisors was ex Bell Labs and did a great deal of work on the original cellular phone technology; he refused to have anything to do with mobile phones believing that the effects on the brain were not sufficiently researched and evidence to suggest that there was a detrimental effect were being suppressed (as the government could make so much money out of the sale of operator licenses). 

 

Personally I don't no enough bio science to make a valid judgement and anyway I find the benefits of the mobile phone far outweigh any additional risk, in the same was as cars do (no doubt that they are responsible for many deaths and injuries). But, I think I know enough of life to know that not all conspiracy theories are bunkum...............

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sockatume
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15 years ago, sure, there wasn't a huge amount of research. However epidemiological and mechanistic studies over the past decade of concern are coming back as saying RF from mobile phones isn't a risk, or is too small a risk to measure, or the effects develop over a timescale of much more than a decade. Certainly in terms of power output we wouldn't expect them to be dangerous, and there's no indication of a non-thermal effect at work (which is sad, because that's some research I could really get into).

 

RF won't be at work in this instance, at any rate. The brain just doesn't repond as strongly or as quickly to weak RF exposure as people posting here are indicating. I'm putting my money on psychoacoustics - some near-ultrasonic, generally-inaudible tone is giving people headaches.

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el_loco
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Re: N95 causes headache & giddiness

Some things to keep in mind, or keep at ease.

 

The radiation effect is reduced by an inverse square factor of distance. Which means that the power value is divided by distance square. So if you're worried about radiation getting in your body or head, just move the phone away from it.

 

IF you're worried of using a Bluetooth headset due to close proximity to the ear. No worries, use a wired headset with a remote that has the microphone. Then wear the device as far away from your body as possible.

 

IF you're still worried, then I recommend building a Faraday cage in the basement and move in to live there.:smileyvery-happy:

 

I would have to agree though, 3G signals at high power do seem perceptible even if you hold the device in your hand.

 

 


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