[dalinian61]

I believe I have followed all the right steps to get my new Nokia N810 Internet Tablet to use my new Nokia N95 Phone as its 3G modem via Bluetooth's Dial-up Networking Profile, BUT: "Connection failed to phone Tim's N95. Try again?"

I'm in the UK, using a SIM from the UK's Three 3G network in my N95, with a 'Broadband Lite Mobile Broadband Add-on', with 995.85 MB of capacity remaining: "Add Broadband Lite – Use your mobile as a modem for broadband on the go, with a 1 GB data allowance." (see http://www.three.co.uk/personal/shop_/add_ons_/information_/broadband_lite.omp ). The N95's standby screen displays a 3G icon indicating "A 3G packet data connection is active.(UMTS)" (see http://217.64.228.213:8080/my3/Nokia/N95/icons_keys.html# ). And the N95's web browser does indeed seem to be accessing the net at up to 2.8 Mbps in central London ("Maximum speeds of up to 2.8 Mbps available on selected areas within 3's HSDPA network in the UK" – see: http://www.three.co.uk/personal/help_support_/terms_conditions.omp?cid=1187800248881 ).

I tried calling Three for tech support and got a "we can't help you because we don't sell the Nokia N810" response, and the addresses of my three closest Club Nokia Stores in central London – visiting which is now Plan B, if I can't find a friendly forum subscriber who can guide me to a solution.

Sending files via Bluetooth between N810 and N85 works fine in both directions, using Bluetooth's Object Push Profile (OPP). The N810 can browse and open files in the N95's microSDHC card and internal memory, using Bluetooth's File Transfer Profile (FTP). And the N810 correctly reports that the Bluetooth device 'Tim's N95' supports the DUN, FTP and OPP Bluetooth profiles, and the GSM/UMTS network type. But it seems that the N810 cannot acquire a net connection from the N95, using the phone's Bluetooth Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN), and the N810's '3'-in-the-UK connection setup.

So, just where does the problem lie? With Nokia? Or Bluetooth? Or Three? Or little old me? Any help would be most appreciated, for which I offer my thanks in advance.

[patriciaanne3]

I have no idea what the problem is only in that surely pc suite can only configure the s60 device as a modem for a laptop not another s60 device.

[dalinian61]

I guess I maybe should have mentioned that the Nokia N810 Internet Tablet does not run M$ Windoze, but like Mac OS X, it is at it's kernel an OSS unix OS – in this case, the maemo Linux based OS2008 (v1.2007.42-19). So it's a Linux system (not a PC or a Mac) and a palm top (not a notebook or desktop) – so it won't run Nokia's 'PC Suite'.

However, all my pre-purchase research indicated that the N810 running OS2008 was interoperable with the N95 running S60 3rd Edition via their common Bluetooth profiles. And that's proved true, but so far only for OPP and FTP – and not yet for Dial-up Networking (DUN), which is the current sticking point.

[lateagain]

"Connection failed" probably means you need to go to the phone, find the paired device, and set it as "connect without asking" ie trusted.
You want bluetooth ON on the phone (not "auto" which turns it on when the phone want's to talk, eg headsets, when you get a call).

As I just flashed my N810 to the latest firmware and couldn't get the phone connection back I know how you feel.
On first time use I got the setup wizard, after the reflash I didn't. (had to read the new version of the manual)

Open the control panel and select "tools", "mobile operator setup wizard..." (that's the menu from clicking on the title bar at the top) which'll add the settings to connect via the phone to many of the common mobile companies.

[lateagain]

Forget the "connection Failed" bit. You said you could browse the phone :-)

For 3 in the uk the wizard gives a connection called "3", using packet data, Access point name: three.co.uk, Dial-up number: *99***1# (blank user and password)

[sparkynok]

I had this problem. Then I found that the name of the Access Point on the N810 had a typo in it.

By deafult the 3 setting entered by the wizard add a space to the end of the name "three.co.uk "
Remove the space and it should work. All other settings the same as the wizard puts in.

Also i find it more reliable if, on the N95 Packet Data is set to "When Available" rather than "When Needed"

[dalinian61]

Oooooo – sparkynok, you genius!!! That's ALL I had to do, change "three.co.uk " to "three.co.uk", and as you so rightly say, TA-DAA, it works – fan-blinkin-tastic. You must, as they say, have the 'eyes of a hawk' ("Raptors, or birds of prey, including the eagles, hawks and falcons can see up to 8 times more clearly than the sharpest human eye" – see 'What animal has the sharpest eyesight?' at http://ebiomedia.com/gall/eyes/sharp.html for the hows & whys).

Not only your visual acuity, but also your tech-savvyness command my greatest respect. Like Oliver Hardy said, "Now why didn't **I** think of that Stanley? Mmm-mmmm-mumfff!!!"

So, to recap for others struck down by the same 'challenge', here's how to...
• Get set up to use your N95 phone as a 3G Bluetooth-connected modem for your N810 internet tablet
• Correct for Nokia's preposterous error in creating a defective '3' Connection to 3's 3G network.

This example procedure assumes you haven't yet carried out 'Bluetooth pairing' between your N810 and your N95 (2.1 below) or set up any Connection for your particular mobile operator company (2.2 below).

Overview
1.0 N95's Bluetooth – switch on, make visible, name phone
2.0 N810's Bluetooth – pair with N95, and setup a Connection called '3'
3.0 Correct for Nokia's preposterous error in creating a defective '3' Connection
4.0 Test out your corrected '3' Connection
5.0 Have a lie down in a quiet, darkened room, with a moist cloth on your forehead


1.0 N95's Bluetooth – switch on, make visible, name phone

1.1 Menu —> Tools —> Bluetooth, then set as follows
........Bluetooth
............On
........My phone's visibility
............Shown to all
........My phone's name
............your choice, eg: "Tim's N95" (as used in the rest of this example)
1.2 Choose 'Exit' —> Bluetooth logo shows on Standby Screen


2.0 N810's Bluetooth – pair with N95, and setup a Connection called 3

2.1.0 Create Bluetooth pairing with N95
2.1.1 On N810: Application menu —> Settings —> Control panel —> Connectivity section —> double-tap on 'Bluetooth'
........'Bluetooth' box
............Bluetooth on: yes
............Visible: no
............My device's name: your choice, eg: "Tim's N810" (as used in the rest of this example)
........Tap on [ Devices ] —> 'Bluetooth devices' box —> tap on [ New ] —> 'Select a device' box —> tap on "Tim's N95" —> tap on [ OK ]
........'Pair with device' box
............Pair with device: "Tim's N95"

............Passcode: make a note of this four digit number
............Set as trusted device: yes
........Tap on [ OK ], and 'Pairing' appears, top right
2.1.2 On N95: 'Bluetooth' box
........Passcode for Tim's N810
............enter the Passcode you just made a noted
2.1.3 On N810: 'Pairing complete' shows briefly, top right
........Use this phone for Internet connections?
........Tap on [ Yes ]

2.2.0 Setup a Connection for your particular mobile operator company
2.2.1 NB: if you have a Connection set up already the 'Operator setup wizard' will not appear automatically; if you need to get at it, it is available here: Application menu —> Settings —> Control panel —> 'Control panel' menu (top left) —> Tools —> 'Mobile operator setup wizard...'
2.2.2 On N810:
........'Operator setup 1/4: Welcome' box —> Tap on [ Next ]
........'Operator setup 2/4: Select country' box
............Select country: your country, eg: "UK" (as used in the rest of this example)
............Tap on [ Next ]
........'Operator setup 3/4: Select operator' box
............Mobile operator: your mobile operator company, eg: O2, Orange, T-Mobile, Vodafone, etc. I choose "3" (as used in the rest of this example)
............Tap on [ Next ]
........'Operator setup 4/4: Finish' box
............Tap on [ Finish ] to save these settings to a new Connection called '3'
........'Bluetooth devices' box —> tap on [ Close ] —> 'Bluetooth' box —> tap on [ OK ]
2.2.3 NB: if your mobile operator company is the '3' network in the UK, trying to use the '3' Connection created by the 'Mobile operator setup wizard...' gives an error message, such as "Internet connection failed. Try again?" or "Connection failed to phone Tim's N95. Try again?" You can correct for this in 3.0 below.


3.0 Correct for Nokia's preposterous error in creating a defective '3' Connection

3.1 NB: If you try to use the '3' Connection created by Nokia's 'Mobile operator setup wizard...', you'll get an error message, such as "Internet connection failed. Try again?" or "Connection failed to phone Tim's N95. Try again?" Why? Because of an extra space character added to the access point name, ie: "three.co.uk " (incorrect, fails, error message) rather than "three.co.uk" (correct, succeeds, connected message). The rest of the settings in the wizard-created '3' Connection are OK, but this extra space character needs removing, so here's how to fix Nokia's preposterous error.
3.2 On N810: Application menu —> Settings —> Control panel —> Connectivity section —> double-tap on 'Connectivity'
........'Connectivity' box —> tap on [ Connections ]
........'Connections' box —> tap on 3 —> tap on [ Edit ]
........'Connection setup: Name and type' box —> tap on [ Next ]
........'Connection setup: Packet data' box
............Access point name: "three.co.uk " —> delete the extra space character, such that:
............Access point name: "three.co.uk"
............Tap on [ Finish ] to save this corrected setting to the '3' Connection, and 'Settings saved' shows briefly, top right
........'Connections' box —> tap [ Done ]
........'Connectivity' box —> tap on [ OK ]


4.0 Test out your corrected '3' Connection

4.1 On N810: Tap on the 'Web browser' icon, top right (it looks like planet Earth)
.............tap on a bookmark, such as Wikipedia, and 'Web loading' then 'Updating' show briefly, top right
4.2 'Select connection' box —> tap on 3
...........The 'Internet connection' icon goes from being grayed out, to flashing the packet data icon while the connection is established, to a lit-up packet data icon once the N810 is connected to the '3' network via the N95
............The Bluetooth icon goes from white to blue once the N810 is connected to the N95 by Bluetooth
............The Web browser status bar shows 'Connecting' briefly, bottom right
............The Web browser status bar shows the web address of the bookmark you chose at 4.1 above
............And FINALLY, the Web browser shows the web page of that very bookmark! Yee-haaaaw!!
4.3 Try a few other web pages to assure yourself that you are up and running


5.0 Er...
............that's it! Phew!!


Comically complicated? Preposterously error-prone? Ridiculously relieving to force two Nokia products to cooperate?

"To err is human; but to really screw things up, you need a computer!"

[guru4646]

hi
i want to take this phone at india.So will u tell me,it will work with the indian sim card or not.What should i do ?

[chas1994]

Hi, I followed Nick's ideas and it worked fine before, but now - after updating my N810 to the latest version, I always get 'Connection failed to phone Chazz' N95'. The network icon flashes and the bluetooth icon gets blue until the error message comes.
I have tried all options, but can not figure out where the problem lies. Any ideas?

[chas1994]

when the network icon flashes and the blue tooth icon goes blue briefly, the problem has to do with credentials. Whoever wants to know: the password for T-Mobile Germany is 'gprs', whatever the wizard puts in is plain wrong.

[mikath11]

Hi
Have u managed to solve the connection problem

I am still struggling after following all the suggestions on website

Rgds

Kat