[mayas]

Hey guys I backed up my data from an N90 n saved it on the mmc. I have now gotten an N95 8Gb and when using the content copier on NSeries PC Suite it doesn't recognize the .arc backup file.

Any suggestions on what i can do to get around it. My previous Ph N90 is gone so can't do anything with that i just have the mmc and the .arc backup file to play around with.

Thanx

[jacobsladder]

that file can't be read by PC Suite, it can only be read by another N90, I don't think your N95 will read it off the memory card.

[grschinon]

This is correct.

A backup to your memory card can only be restored by the same model phone.

By using PC Suite, however, you can transfer your data from one model to another.

[vasapollo]

This is just to inform you all that the only sw capable of unpacking an arc file is noki from nokisoft, at the miserable price of 50 $ for a single operation. Yes because you will need it only once.

I have asked Nokia to post on all their sites a free sw that will allow the unpacking of the arc file.

In the case Nokia will not agree, our european group will promote class action with Oftel, Agcom and Ombudsman office in Bruxell in order to claim refund of all damages caused to all Nokia users by not providing the uncrypting and unpacking sw of the arc files ,which are the only proprietary of the client.

Francesco Vasapollo

Lawyer at EU  

[grschinon]

You want to claim for damages subsequent to Nokia not providing a tool to access backup archives?

What damages would that be?

Oh, and Nokia does provide a tool to access those backup archives: your phone.

[bradend5]

If u have ur mmc card.. so try to read ur mmc card by card reader..may be it will help ful for you.

[vasapollo]

Use your brain!

Of course that will work, if you still have the phone but in many cases the phone is either stolen or broken; or in some cases, unbranded; so the only chance to restore/retrieve your data is a software capable of decrypting and opening the arc file.

Unfortunately, Nokia is aware that this sw needed for a single operation (later on everybody will use pcsuite of course)  is for sale at 50 box!!!

That is why I am collecting people to get a refund for damages caused by the missing opening software, which of course is owned and distributed by a member of..................

Get Smart

vasapollo

EU Lawyer    

[grschinon]

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vasapollo wrote:
That is why I am collecting people to get a refund for damages caused by the missing opening software

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Once again, I ask, what damages?

Have you actually read the fine print of the warranty in which it says that Nokia is not responsible for loss of data in the event of the phone breaking down? Or does that not apply to lawyers?

[mccbleue]

Vasapollo, grschinon is perfectly correct.

No manufacturer of an electronic device, be it a phone, PDA,  PC etc. is under any legal obligation to accept any responsibility for your personal data. That is entirely the responsibility of the user, ie: you.

Nokia is under not even under any legal obligation to provide you with PC Suite or any of the tools it contains, including the Content Copier. Nokia, like every other company, develops and provides such software free of charge so that owners can get more from their products. It's free and it's therefore provided without warranty. 

If you find this unacceptable, then instead of employing expensive lawyers to fight a case that you can never win, why not employ some programmers to develop software to interpret the backup files for you?

[sapporobaby]

@mccbleue,

You forgot to add: "use your brain".  

[mccbleue]

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sapporobaby wrote:
 

You forgot to add: "use your brain".  

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I try not to be too presumptious!!

[vasapollo]

Very sneaky just to publish part of our conversations...users are smarter than that.

[vasapollo]

Mr. Mobile Guru,
 
I guess being 62 years old and having worked in the mobile business, dtv, Ict ecc for 35 years might give me the authority to call myself a Guru, too. However, I respect Socrates and I consider myself an ignorant.
 
The point here is a "CLASS ACTION".  In this case only lawyers can make the difference along with watchdogs and regulators. However, if Nokia feels strong and unattackable then this comes to our advantage as Sun Tzu says.....
 
It's a question also of justness and common practise: you compress then you decompress just as simple as zip, rar etc.
 
Nokia has provided a sw capable of compacting  and encrypting a sensible backup data file. The legal point here is that Nokia must supply the other way aorund sw free of charge, not only to me but to the world.
 
Your suggestion of developing is not a good one much better eliminitating limitations by disassembling the little routine and recompiling it; but this is not legal as you might know.
 
Therefore I consider this discussion closed and we will lawsuit Nokia and its manager team.
 

Good Luck mr. I knowitall 

[mccbleue]

There were three of us, and we don't know it all - but between us we know enough.

The purpose of Nokia Content Copier is to back up phone content from a Nokia device and to restore it back to the same Nokia device or a different Nokia device, and it does exactly what it says on the tin. Nobody ever claimed that it was intended to be a way of interrogating the data in another device, so I'd be interested to know on what legal basis you assume that it should. 

If you consider yourself a legal expert, perhaps you should look up to successful legal professionals instead of ancient philosophers...

[mccbleue]

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vasapollo wrote:

Very sneaky just to publish part of our conversations...users are smarter than that.

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Eh? Your comments were published by you, and they are published when you hit the 'submit' button. If you missed out part of what you wanted to say, you have only yourself to blame, "we" haven't edited anything that you wrote and do not have permissions on the forum to do so...

[sapporobaby]

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mccbleue wrote:

If you consider yourself a legal expert, perhaps you should look up to successful legal professionals instead of ancient philosophers...

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Game, set, match: mccleue 

[vasapollo]

Naive and preposterous.

The game hasn't started yet and since you like to play tennis and I loved McEnroe I would like to give you a small piece of advice/suggestion "Sell the bear skin after he is dead".

In other words, this is a nice opportunity to demolish your and general common believes.

Registered letters have been sent today to Nokia board members, Oftel, Agcom and Eu. I will soon be smiling but I will keep you posted about proceedings. Sometimes It is good ang just to change......

My statement remains:

Nokia must supply free of charge the arc file unpacker at any time and to all owners of Nokia sets. 

Failing to satisfy customers needs Nokia will generate a negative customer experience all over in favour of better assisted phones. The news will quickly spread like a virus. And of course, I will be together with all my followers the promoter of the churned bottom figures due to lack of sales, sanctions and claimed damages payments.

By the way, I just heard a guy that managed to get rid of the limitations and now the little routine is on some torrent link. I will not use it because it is illegal and more than everything else because more time I remain without data more money I will get from  Chairman Jorma Ollila and Dame Marjorie Scardino.

So, it's not yet chess mate but we are getting there.

fv  

[vasapollo]

Please give a look at this link and comment on my desire of being reimbursed by Nokia for my loss of sensible data.......

http://www.nokia.com/about-nokia/corporate-governance/compensation#board_of_directors

maybe they can collect a few dollars each and give availability to all of us to unpack our arc files!

fv  

[sapporobaby]

Boring and pontificating as normal. Good luck with your suit and make sure you show in writing where Nokia said they would provide said software and then where they failed to do so.

[mccbleue]

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vasapollo wrote:

...since you like to play tennis and I loved McEnroe...

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Isn't McEnroe the one who used to throw temper tantrums when he didn't get his own way? This is starting to become more and more clear

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vasapollo wrote:

Registered letters have been sent today to Nokia board members, Oftel, Agcom and Eu...

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That should give them a giggle...

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vasapollo wrote:

My statement remains:

Nokia must supply free of charge the arc file unpacker at any time and to all owners of Nokia sets.

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 This starts to sound like a broken record, but we'll humour you because we're all enjoying the show.

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vasapollo wrote:

Failing to satisfy customers needs Nokia will generate a negative customer experience all over in favour of better assisted phones. The news will quickly spread like a virus. And of course, I will be together with all my followers the promoter of the churned bottom figures due to lack of sales, sanctions and claimed damages payments.

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 In order to win on this basis, you'd have to establish two things:

(1) That Nokia is failing to provide something that all or a significant proportion of companies producing similar devices (e.g. Apple, Sony Ericsson, RIM, Samsung, HTC, et al) do provide.

(2) That a significant number of the 400-500 million people who buy Nokia phones each year (that figure being a guestimate based loosely on Nokia's 2008 Q4 figures of 113.1 million units sold and 2008 Q3 figures of 117.3 million units sold) are adversely affected by this alleged issue.

Ladies and gentlemen, pour yourselves a drink, relax in your favourite armchair and enjoy the show!!

Oh, and by the way, that ball was definitely out. There was no chalk dust. None at all...

Message Edited by mccbleue on 12-Oct-2009 07:30 PM