[qwertyytrewq]

In relation to

"the N900 pricing between the USA and UK this is not the case because as has been stated before the difference between the after tax pricing is approx. 20 euros or less than 5%."

Which I assume is based on 

"I checked on the NOKIA USA web site and if I was to purchase the N900 in New York from Nokia USA the tax would be approx. $57.60 making for an approx. total of $706.60 (approx. 480 euros).... So really it's only approx. 20 euros difference "

The UK uses £ not Euros.

£499 = approx USD$820 or EUR555

So difference is about EUR75 or about 16% after tax

[mo_shef]

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ynwa wrote:

if u want the phone now you can get it for £439.99 form here sim free: http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/8267051/-/Product.html?searchstring=n97&searchsource=0 Cheapast Ive seen so far.

Thats the N97 though

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sorry my bad. Here is the correct link
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/11626538/Nokia-N900-Sim-Free-Unlocked-5-0-Megapixel-32GB-Mobil...

[froschy]

My bad, I forgot about the UK still using pounds.

@mccbleue - I'm not trying to start an argument with you, but what you're saying about savings for consumers and companies protecting their revenues amounts to the same thing. Companies split up the world into different markets so that they can charge the maximum amount possible in each market. Consumers like to pay the lowest amount possible but the DVD region coding stops* people from importing DVDs from markets where the RRP is lower.

*This doesn't take into account region free players and pirated DVDs.

The original poster stated that the US price included tax, I entered this discussion only to correct this error. 

[mccbleue]

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froschy wrote:

@mccbleue - I'm not trying to start an argument with you, but what you're saying about savings for consumers and companies protecting their revenues amounts to the same thing. Companies split up the world into different markets so that they can charge the maximum amount possible in each market. Consumers like to pay the lowest amount possible but the DVD region coding stops* people from importing DVDs from markets where the RRP is lower.

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This is wondering off topic but... In that case it is a happy bonus for the film companies, but it was not the reason for having region coding in the first place. Since well before it was possibel to own one's own copy of a film, films have been shown in cinemas at different launch dates around the world. This allows them to control better the marketing, and also you can't have your top stars making special appearances at premières simultaneously around the world.

With VHS videos, the release of films to own was regulated by the fact that different countries used different standards according to the number of lines on TV screens in those countries - for example, a film was launched in the US in January but not in Europe until several months later, the launch of the VHS tape in the US would not impact on cinema figures in Europe because an American NTSC tape couldn't play in the PAL equipment used in most of Europe or the SECAM equipment used in France.

DVD is a digital media which overrides the restrictions of the TV different equipment and therefore threatened to level the worldwide playing field - Hollywood and other international film organisations insisted on region coding before allowing their output to be released on DVD so that they could regulate the release of films around the world, not so they could regulate prices of the discs. Being able to buy from anywhere in the world depends on the buyer knowing one of the languages on the discs supplied in any given country, so it can't be argued that without coding anybody would watch DVDs bought from anywhere in the world.

[maxximuscool]

@mccbleue: You said because UK, EUROPE and USA got alot of people right that is why Nokia see the potential of making moneys right? Take a look at Asia, lol, the whole Asia is more than 3/4 of the whole world population. If the phone is coming out to NZ then Australia, Fiji, Samoa, Cook Island and Phillipine will get it too. Since NZ using the same region as them. They are all in the same group.

Which make a total of around 110millions people and atleast 3million potential buyers. This doesn't look so bad right? and let just say 100million people in Asia bought it, lol see what i meant. The strategies that Nokia is using is to sqeeze the juice out of the European as much as possible, Similarily to SONY PS3 did.

Europe has to pay the same price as USA but in different currency. But i'm just hoping this device actually coming out soon that is all I am waiting for every **bleep** day. My Nokia N95 has gone to the Hospital for a surgery cos of the stupid firmware update destroyed my camera function. So I need a new one, which is this N900. My new device.

PS.. 

[mccbleue]

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maxximuscool wrote:

@mccbleue: You said because UK, EUROPE and USA got alot of people right that is why Nokia see the potential of making moneys right? Take a look at Asia, lol, the whole Asia is more than 3/4 of the whole world population. If the phone is coming out to NZ then Australia, Fiji, Samoa, Cook Island and Phillipine will get it too. Since NZ using the same region as them. They are all in the same group.

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That's not quite what I said. When I talked about location being a factor, I wasn't comparing Europe and Asia, nor was I saying that these places had more people than Asia in total; I pointed out that the NZ market is small so the proportion of potential phone buyers who will shell out for a top-of-range model like the N900is small compared to larger countries. Also consider that your country is not an integral part of Asia in a geographic sense, it is a couple of islands far from tha asian landmass, so all goods have an additional logistical cost before they get to the retailer.

It is a fact that sales of expensive smartphones make a higher proportion of sales in Europe and the Americas because there is an inherent wealth difference between the consumers in those regions than in Asia. Australia and New Zealand are on par with most European countries in terms of consumer wealth, but most of the Asian region is not - cheaper, much more basic phones are much more common in most of Asia. 

Additionally, large companies like Nokia don't fix worldwide prices centrally, the only issue a recommended retail price - decisions are usually taken at national level as to what prices will be in any given country, and that is based on the cost of getting goods to market in that specific country, not the region as a whole, as well as projected sales. It costs more to ship a container of goods by sea from a factory in China to NZ or any of the other places in the area than it does to ship a container of goods by road from Finland to Mainland Europe, and since most European countries are linked in or close to a central landmass, is is cheaper to distribute to those countries than it is to distribute to a series of islands that aren't directly linked.

Your country is much like my own, it represents a small market so it is never a priority to any company. Trust me, you don't have to be in a remote corner of the South Pacific to be behind others in getting new stuff in the shops.

[froschy]

@mccbleue - What I have always contended is that region coding is a way of controlling the market to maximise revenues, whether that's to set different release dates or set different prices. The movie industry may say that it was only for setting different release dates but it would be rather naive to take this on face value. We're really just arguing apples and apples.

Countries still have their video standards (PAL & NTSC), so a DVD for the USA will be in NTSC and a DVD for Australia will be in PAL but this has been made largely redundant by multi-system DVD players.

Obviously not everybody can buy DVDs from different parts of the world due to language but that is not what I said and you would have to agree that there is a large market for English language films in either native English speaking countries or countries where people speak English as a second language.

As you stated this is off topic, so if you would like to continue this discussion please send me a PM.