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My experience with the N97 - "my last Nokia"

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Re: My experience with the N97 - "my last Nokia"

I've been reading into this forum more, and alot of the issues I have are listed here. I get the innacurate alarm clock issue, it freezes, sometimes won't connect to the internet (when there is full coverage), I could go all night.

 

My mate kept harping on about how awesome his Iphone is. I should've listened. The N97 is the Windows 98 of the mobile world. My next phone WON'T be a Nokia, i'll tell you that!

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Re: My experience with the N97 - "my last Nokia"


Stace84 wrote:

I've been reading into this forum more, and alot of the issues I have are listed here. I get the innacurate alarm clock issue, it freezes, sometimes won't connect to the internet (when there is full coverage), I could go all night.

 

My mate kept harping on about how awesome his Iphone is. I should've listened. The N97 is the Windows 98 of the mobile world. My next phone WON'T be a Nokia, i'll tell you that!


If I know the devices now in production have gps an camera lens cover issues fixed. Softwareproblems probably get better soon (should have been from the beginning of course). But I can tell You there are also problems with other devices - I have other devices than Nokia, too.

E7, N8
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techinsane
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Re: My experience with the N97 - "my last Nokia"

Looks like I am not alone in my huge disppointment, so anyone out there can recommend any other phones to buy? please exclude all plant phones.
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Re: My experience with the N97 - "my last Nokia"

I share a similar experience with my N97. It takes a lot of patience to use this phone. Its freezes every second minute. Software is not at all responsive. Poor UI. Overall, a big waste. It has changed my perception about Nokia's commitment towards its quality of phones. Will never buy a Nokia phone in future.
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Re: My experience with the N97 - "my last Nokia"

Nokia Tries to Undo Blunders in U.S function

Published: October 18, 2009

Nokia, the Finnish company that is the world’s biggest maker of mobile phones, is an undisputed powerhouse in Europe, Asia and Latin America, with market shares regularly topping 30 percent.

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Kirsten Luce for The New York Times

Mark Louison, president of Nokia’s North American unit, says the company is laying the groundwork for long-term success.

Kirsten Luce for The New York Times

Nokia's new products include the Nokia Booklet 3G, a mini laptop, and, clockwise from center, the Nokia Twist, Nokia Surge, Nokia E71X and Nokia 5130 Xpress Music.

But in the United States, Nokia’s signal has faded. As recently as March 2002, it led the American market with a 35 percent share. By last year, though, it slipped to 10 percent and by June of this year — the most recent figure available — Nokia’s share was only 7 percent.

Now the company is struggling to make amends in America, and its comeback effort has started to make some headway. And yet, going into the crucial Christmas shopping season in the United States, Nokia does not have a strong offering for the American smartphone market, the only part of the mobile industry that is growing. Three years after Apple introduced the iPhone, Nokia still has no alternative.

Many other players are struggling to compete with the iPhone, too. But because of a decade of mistakes, Nokia’s product line in the United States has also been surpassed by LG, Motorola, Samsung and Research In Motion.

Among its biggest blunders, analysts and former Nokia executives say, the company failed to design many of its phones to the tastes of American consumers, instead mass producing devices for the global market to save on production costs.

Nokia did not anticipate changes in American consumer tastes, like flip phones and touch screens, said Neil Mawston, an analyst in London with Strategy Analytics. More crucially, perhaps, it also based its models on a European communications standard called GSM when roughly half the United States market — including the customers of Verizon Wireless and Sprint Nextel — uses the CDMA format.

“Nokia, at the height of its success, decided not to adapt its phones for the U.S. market. That was a mistake,” said Ari Hakkarainen, a Nokia business development executive from 1999 to 2007. “They are still trying to recover from this.”

An executive at a North American network operator, who declined to be identified because he was not authorized to speak publicly, summed it up: “The attitude at Nokia was basically: ‘Here is a phone. Do you want it?’ Nokia wouldn’t play by the rules here, and they have paid a price.”

Nokia must also contend with a global economic slowdown that has hurt its sales and earnings. Last week, Nokia reported a third-quarter loss of $1.36 billion as sales fell 20 percent globally — and 25 percent in North America — from a year earlier.

Nokia has recently revamped its United States operations to collaborate more closely with the major American operators — AT&T Mobility, AT&T’s wireless unit, Verizon, T-Mobile USA and Sprint Nextel. Together, they control 96 percent of United States sales of mobile devices, according to the International Data Corporation, a research firm.

The strategy is beginning to show results: AT&T this year will begin billing customers who use Nokia services branded as Ovi. Those customers will no longer receive a second bill from Nokia. And in Canada, the network leader, Rogers Communications, is making it easier to access Ovi Maps and N-Gage game services on two Nokia models.

Starting in mid-November at the Best Buy retail chain, Nokia will sell a netbook, the Nokia Booklet 3G, which is a model for its new collaborative strategy. The $300 minilaptop will come with a $60 monthly contract at AT&T Mobility and run on a Microsoft Windows 7 operating system.

“Nokia’s mobile device leadership, together with AT&T’s mobile broadband network leadership, Best Buy’s retail reach and Windows 7, is a very strong lineup,” Microsoft’s chief executive, Steven A. Ballmer, said last week.

But some industry executives say Nokia faces a battle to regain its lost stature. The business — and cellphones — were simpler when Nokia overtook Motorola to climb to the top of the American market in 2000. And Apple, Research In Motion and Google were not yet in the cellphone business.

“They claim they get it and understand the U.S. market,” said Ramon Llamas, a senior analyst at IDC in Framingham, Mass. “It’s the story we have heard for the past couple of years. But the execution still is not there.”

In Europe, a competitive marketplace with more than 230 operators, Nokia could always find one or more operators in every domestic market willing to sell its portfolio of phones.

But in the United States, where a small number of operators rule most of the market, the network companies can command design changes to promote and sell their own wireless services. They place their own brand names on every model they sell and make sure their revenue-raising wireless services are prominently displayed and easy to use.

In March 2007, Nokia appointed an American, Mark Louison, president of the company’s North American unit and gave him a seat on Nokia’s global management board. Mr. Louison, in an interview, said Nokia recognized that its former strategy had not worked in North America and was now busy laying the groundwork for long-term success.

Under Mr. Louison, Nokia has set up liaison offices in Atlanta, Dallas, Seattle and Parsippany, N.J. — cities where the top American operators have big business units. Nokia also has an office in Toronto near Rogers Communications.

And Nokia has struck potentially important deals over the last year. One was with Qualcomm, the biggest maker of mobile phone chips for CDMA devices in the United States. The other was with Microsoft to design Windows Office Mobile software applications for phones that use Nokia’s Symbian operating system.

Nokia has based its global chief financial officer, Rick Simonson, at its United States headquarters in White Plains, which has 350 people. He will head Nokia’s cellphone business that is other than smartphones. Also based there is Nokia’s global chief development officer, Mary McDowell.

“In the past, we had a one-size-fits-all mentality that worked well on a global basis but did not help us in this market,” Mr. Louison said. “That has changed now, and there is a recognition within the company that we have had to change our attitude about how we approach this market.”

The migration of wireless technology to higher-speed networks that are based on the GSM standard used by Nokia should also help the Finnish company sell phones. The company’s decision to convert Symbian to an open-source software could also help spread its presence on smartphones.

“Nokia is about open systems, big markets, taking the products to the masses,” Mr. Louison said. “The smartphone business has grown very quickly, and most of the solutions out there are closed systems.”

After Nokia said it would make Symbian open source, AT&T Mobility joined Symbian’s board. “Everything you see us doing,” Mr. Louison said, “is to build the broad set of capabilities to take us broader and deeper into the U.S. market.”
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Re: My experience with the N97 - "my last Nokia"

The most annoying thing about the N97 is that it is a complete 180 degree turn around in regards to quality and reliability when compared to the E71. I loved my E71 and the amount of C: space. The phone was so solid.


I still have it and it's part of the reason why I haven't thrown my N97 out the window. The N97 and E71 use the same battery. SO I use my E71 battery as a backup for the N97. I only ever get one "low battery" warning before the N97 turns off. It's ridiculous.


I also have the problem were the phone wont turn on and have to take the battery out and put it back in. Also the issue where the time and date reset, also occurs.


I've owned 8 or so different Nokia models. I was a user of the original 5110. I had phones such as the N-gage QD. I loved Nokia phones. The I owned the E61. While chunky. It was such a good phone. The E71 just topped it. NOw the N97...What a joke.


I guess it's some what my fault for being an idiot and going with the N series. Espically after hearing about the N96, which I was close to getting. It's like Nokia denied they made that phone.
I want to know throw out my N97 and wait for the E71. But the N97 has put me off Nokia.


I knew I shoould have gone for the HTC Touch Pro 2. It did seem to slightly beat the N97 on the reviews I read.


I'm waiting for the V2.0 firmware. I know it's not going to make ther phone run more smooth, but I'm hoping for a miracle. If it doesn't, I will go back to my E71 and throw the N97 into my draw and never use it again. I know people will say your better off selling it. But im not one to sell someone a dud.

 

If I was to sell it on ebay, I would have to descibe how bad the phone is in the description. WOuldn't want to put someone else through the pain. lol

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Do not buy the n97. It is a pile of _ _ _ _.
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hi alcroth,

          im a caregiver here at italy with a 94 year old man.im on my third year here hopefully next year im not a clandestine here anymore..i have 4 kids on the philippines with my mom.my father died last 2007 without seeing him...it's not that easy to be far from your family right...so every single cent is important for me...                    when everybody is being crazy about iphone i really want to have that also..just a reward for myself.but i think its not yet the right time..but when i saw the n97,i want to have that,without thinking twice i got it...but all your complaints,i also  experiencing that.

1.the 3g..sometimes video call is not working..

2.the contacts..i already stored it with names but when they are calling i couldnt recornize them.the name is not appear.

3.the music i saved it on the memory card but i couldnt play it on my playlist

4.even i personalized the contacts with their tones so should recognize who is calling without looking..most of the time its not functioning.theres always a not that 'the music is corrupted' something like that..

im really tired of fixing it..

 

every single cent is important for me..im a single mom with a 4 kids.and niece..and my mom.all of them are my responsibilities.

i think i should save my money for the next schoolyear.

i want to have a messenger on my phone so even im out of work i can chat with my kids..

but what should i do? i wasted my money..

i bought it last month €599....

 

hope u can give me an advice...

thanksssssssssss..

nokia hope u can give back my money and i can give back ur product,or help me to fix it,because im just an ordinary person...

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good for u matt..my n97 is a problem for me..i hope u can helpme..i want to have a messenger on my phone so even im out of work i can chat with my kids in the philippines..i dont know how can i install the yahoo messenger.

thanks..

God bless

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You are so on point with this comment. I am in the UK and I jumped from my trusted T Mobile network to Vodafone for a phone that doesn't deliver. Mobile push email has become so important in my life that I wonder why I bothered with this device.  O I remember I am stupidly brand loyal. It has a 5mp camera, it slick in design its touch screen. Listen Nokia has lost a customer it had for 10 years because of this to early released mess called the N97. I have told everyone of my experience. But I am stuck with it until I can get a BB Bold. Like you when it works it is sweet but why ooooh why is the ram so small, the battery life so low and the freezing OMG the freezing. Nokia you messed up so bad your profits should drop through the floor and continue dropping. And this IP battle with Apple will just show you up as being behind the curve. The N97 was your chance to set the curve. Your impatience on this flagship product will be your undoing, in the smart phone market. Did you learn nothing from the n96. I had a n95 for 2 years I gave that phone away;  wrong move. That had a life blog function on it where is that on the 97. Do you guy at nokia listen to your customers or just cast your envious eyes at what other have; some fruits should be left alone, as Eve found out to our peril. Basically I don't comment on these discussion site things cause I have stuff to do generally, but this device has moved me to another level of frustration... Nokia you could really have killed the iphone but your short sightedness has given it more life. Peace Mark London  
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I'm so glad that N97 doesn't have the DVB-H feature (which made me choose N96). If it has, I may be facing multiple problems now as much as you do.
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Just returned my second N97 to reseller. I have had Nokia after Nokia in the past 8 or so years, but that is over...

 

Main problems: GPS/ Flash / Bluetooth

 

Looking at SE / HTC now

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My experience with the N97

For the next time Is better to wait until they release 3 or 4 versions of firmware then go to shop and buy it! " 1 year after they release the phone " . We know they want to just sell!!!

Every body is saying maemo n900 is better phone so they sell a lot ..... And is going to happen the same ..... No software and full of bugs ... An very expensive, so we all will be crying here !!!

Now and using n86 8mp until they release n97 v2 that I have it with v12 that is very bad!!! , ..But it would not not buy
maemo n900, until I start reading that is software is more or less stable and is little bugs.. It is normal some bugs, and some software compatible out!!
Is 1 year since n97 out and we paid in advantage!!!!

We never learn
Regards Fbello Wink
   
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I mite regret this but i am considering nokia n97 my last nokia too unless they send out firmware 2.0, too bad they cant fix hardware issues :smileysad:
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Good thread.

 

I agree with what Lilhaiti had to say:

 


lilhaiti wrote:

I am not an n97 user, I own a 5800 and I (we) share a lot of the same complaints since the devices are technically similar. I initially looked at the n97 and chose the 5800 for the price, boy am I glad I did that.  If I paid more I would be twice as **bleep**.  I have gotten my phone to a point where I can tolerate it, although a new bug seems to pop up all the time.  I do honestly believe that we bought ourselves into a beta testing program...and that I did not intend to sign up for.  I am very patient and hopeful...but if Nokia doesn't make the stars align and make this situation right for many many many customers, they will loose many of them, me included.  

 

Nokia if you read these forums...take heed and take action because people (your customers) are getting very restless and other vendors are just waiting to sell us phones.  


That's spot on.

 

My 5800 struggles with so much that it was supposed to be able to do.

 

I can't even use a music track as a ringtone because, with 2 albums on the thing "Not enough memory to display all ringtones. Only in read-only memory will display".

 

The video player cannot handle any decent format and a lot of videos come through with sound only - no visual.

 

Opera Mini 5 Beta was a revelation. Until then using the Nokia browser was painful.

 

And the fanbvois coming on here to say, "Yor a retad, al yoo ned too do is a, b, c, reverse d, e twice, reset f, clear chace g and then edit code h by inserting i, j, k" have utterly missed the point.

 

We are not Beta testers. We are mobile phone customers. If I wanted to know how phones work and how to fix them I'd have got a job in the industry. I just want a phone that works.

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techinsane
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Two hours after I upgrade to V 20.2, my phone crashed. Thanks Nokia!!!!! the upgrade is a bloody joke. only difference i have experienced so far is the vlingo, which is a paid service.
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omg LOL! Do a hard reset. Thats what everyone is saying. But it takes so long, a few minutes ago i was doing the backup,,,,,its still backing up user files from the phone memory....1% now.

 

I wonder if they ever going to release a new firmware. What it would be like..

What phones would you move on to if N97 is ur last Nokia

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Im with you, ill never buy another Nokia , not after this N97 . ive had nokia's since 1995 and never had so much s%^T as with this phone. My last phone was a E90 which was a bit buggy but ive gone back to using this as i am constantly having to remove the battery to restart or the phone freezes for no reason and i loose important bussiness calls . Not to mention what i had to pay in a fortune to get this phone "what a waste of hard earned cash" .

 

Nokia you should be ashamed of yoursevles for launching a product like this . My mates with there Iphones and Imates are all laghing at me now.You should have taken the time to develop a quality product instead of rushing to launch a similar product to the opposition and at OUR cost.

 

I cant even find my way to the care dontcare centre cause my GPS has packed up .

 

What are you (NOKIA) going to do about it??????

2110,5???,6300i,9300,9300i,9500,E90 lastly a N97 , now embarased to own a Nokia
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5110 and 3210 are the best and most stable Nokia phones. I recommend buying them!!!
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i had to read this thread when i saw 'my last nokia'

 

i own a 5530, also being a symbian 9.4v5 device, has many of the same problems. the worst of which is that the phone often freezes to the point where you have to pull the battery when a call comes in or you hang up a call.

 

installing the firmware update 11.0.54 has done nothing to fix this.

 

this forum has many other owners saying the same thing.

 

i've owned only nokia symbian phones for the past 4 years. THIS ONE IS MY LAST.

 

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