[singh_surpreet]

i have checked every thing wit all phones of XpressMusic  and others ..

also played the same song wit the same bitrate.

i got my phone checked at NOKIA CARE TOO..

but all are > than 5800..i have the phone my self....

[psychomania]

As a 6233 owner and fan I can say that the 6233 is louder, probably one of the loudest nokia's ever but the 5800xm beats it on clarity through the headphones and the speakers.  The 5800 isn't quiet in my opinion, but the clarity is so much better that it makes up for the lesser volume.  I listen to my 5800 through earbuds at around 70-90% volume.

The volume on newer phones is quieter when compared to older phones because of stupid EU regulations.

For those that have poor hearing or are disappointed then it's a personal choice as to whether you stick with the phone or sell it on and move on to another model/brand.

Message Edited by psychomania on 14-Apr-2009 10:13 PM

[arnavzz]

I agree with u psychomania....wen i had originally bought nokia 5610 had very high volume levels in 4.1 firmware...but after upgrading to 6.60 its volume dropped...i mailed to NOKIA...dey replied sayin its coz of some EU regulations...

As far as 5800 goes i still believe its much better dan d rest in terms of clarity, bass nd quality...

N dis opinion will vary for everyone

@it is me

 You nd ur 4 frnds can revert to ur old phones if u r so disappointed...again im saying its a matter of opinion nd varies from persoon to person...but if u still want to settle the debate den y don't u have an online poll?? Even in dat im sure only u nd ur 4 friends will vote for 6233...any one wid good hearing sense nd common sense will clearly say that 5800 is much better

@ singh supreet...

 did u compare 5610 wid 5800?? my dear frnd d biggest prob wid 5610 is dat if u turn bass to max den it produces noise nd muddiness (firmware 6.60 nd higher, check discussion boards), my previous cell was 5610 nd i was highly disappointed by this prob...but it seems ur ears have something special which recognize bad sound as good sound nd vice versa 

P.S. Some of the Xpress music phones don't even have stereo widening e.g. 5310...how d hell can u guys percieve dem better I fail to understand

[clonmult]

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it_is_me wrote:

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poirot wrote:

The quality of sound depends on many factors.

-Ambient noise at the time of monitoring

-type of EQ being used (is it appropriate for the style of music being played)

-type of audio chip used in device

-encoding quality of music

and most importantly...

-how good the listeners ears are (been to many loud gigs? listen to earphones at too high a level? etc)

Basically what I'm saying that the quality of a handsets audio is often subjective.

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Being an audiophile myself , with long experience with  EQ. adjustments ,you can easily cancel all these factors.

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A true audiophile wouldn't use EQ.  Ever.  So you're probably more like a music enthusiast.

I used to be into the audiophile thing - not one equaliser in the system, just spent ages matching components.

But as for what the OP describes, I can't see how you can compare the N73 to the 5800 - they don't use the same headphone adapter for a start.

Biggest problem is that (as poirot stated), sound quality is totally subjective.  Everyones tastes in sound balance is different - what I like is probably not the same as what you like.

[ooey]

its not dissapointing at all! In fact, i find the 5800s music capabilities to be most impressive. There is no need to carry around an ipod with a phone that produces excellent quality music. No, in fact, im more concerned with the rather dodgy camera, which should be as good as the one in the 6500 slide (it seems to be the same camera, in fact) but somehow isn't (poor camera s/w?).

A killer app for the 5800 would be something which stores notes in your own handwriting, as the recognition s/w is a little flakey. I was thinking of writing one myself actually, as no one seems to have cottoned on to this.

jason

[actitud]

 I'm using the bose in-ear headset so, thats not the problem. It's just an excuse from Nokia customer service.

This cell phone has a huge lack of sound comparing with any other crapy 45 dollars mp3 player and thats very disapointing.

Alex.

[arnavzz]

Only volume is low u r over-reacting a lot....and obviously iphone has the capibilty of an ipod....so it will be the best in sound.. but 5800 is pretty close to an ipod in terms of clarity, quality and bass...only volume is where it loses the battle

[ooey]

perhaps some of you guys have a fake/imitation 5800 made in china or something - i know there are a few of them about.

[singh_surpreet]

i never said that the Sound quality is bad

I said the volume  is much lesser is clear...

[actitud]

Nop.

It's the original one.

I think YOU should try some Black Metal on the iPhone and then on the Nokia 5800.

Then, you will notice the difference.

Abba Teens is not a good band to test the sound.

Alex.

[arnavzz]

What makes you think we listen to abba teens??

You really want to test bass then try some house music

[it_is_me · Accepted solution]

After due consideration :

5800 XM has a clearer sound , and better trible compared to 6233.

6233 had a louder sound , and a better bass compared to 5800 XM

And as it's easier to notice bass and loudness , that's why a quick comparision will make 6233 win the test.

Loudness is not so important , as you don't need a very high sound thru headphones that can cause harm to your ears , and the max. sound of 5800 XM is loud enough.

SO, IF NOKIA HAD ADDED SOME MORE BASS TO 5800 XM , IT'S SOUND WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST AMONG ALL NOKIA PHONES , AND MANY OF IT'S COMPETITORS TO MY OPENION.

[arnavzz]

I think you have got the whole definition of bass and treble reversed

Anyway you think what you what to think, this has become mundane as we never will change our opinion...

Im just hoping the new update is out soon and it fixes all the bugs

[seppokoukkula]

In my 5800 I have too much bass

and too much volume with my 

Nokia bluetooth headphones 

and the sound and stereoeffect 

are just great! 

I love my Nokia! 

[it_is_me]

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arnavzz wrote:

I think you have got the whole definition of bass and treble reversed

Anyway you think what you what to think, this has become mundane as we never will change our opinion...

Im just hoping the new update is out soon and it fixes all the bugs

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Try 6233 , and you will know the rael definition of bass !!!

[richijourno]

Just get a set of Senns for it, that will clear it up, I love my music too and know too well, classical really is the only way to see a audio chips true sound output.. have got both handsets and playing classical through both, the 6233 has some highs cut off during playback.

dont beleive me try classical... and PS i rate the 5800 a better phone than my company phone //n96

[seppokoukkula]

You can also adjust EQ manually...

[actitud]

What???

I'm the one who decides the loudnes I want to have, ok?

USA sound restrictions MY BALLS!. Nokia n85 have much louder sound than this crapy 5800.

I paid 400 bucks for this cell phone and I'm really mad/

Xpress Music MY BALLS!...

[sebdee]

I have posted on this subject elsewhere in this forum; in my experience the Nokia 5800 is a perfectly adequate music player, not great, but comparable to similar potable devices.   As a recording engineer for EMI classics and a musician (with degree's in Physics with Music and a masters in audio electronics) I feel I am well qualified to comment. One certainly need to ditch the wholly inadequate earbuds - I personally use Etymotic's (ER4's).

In comparing devices, some people may find that alternative devices better match ones particular expectations of sound reproduction but thats very different from an audio solution that represents rather than interprets a recording. Listening to music I know well (Mahler 5th for example in which I know so well and have a mental score) I find the 5800 provides a reasonably faithful reproduction comparable and equal to other portable devices I have heard.

As for volume there is much independent research  into the irreversible damage cause by headsets, especially the in-ear type which focus all the air pressure on delicate ear drums (I for one only wear mine for 2 hours a day on the tube!), damage is caused at even low volume. The fact that many people feel they need to play music loudly is usually a result of their current state of ear damage! Again, in my experience, lower volume allows much greater of the nuances and complexity of the music.

Incidentally; I'm not a lawyer but I understand that there is current EU directives (and french law)  limiting output for portable devices to 100db, the worse news is that there is a further directive under consideration reducing this to 80db. Even worse, this directive may be applied to all music reproduction (affecting all Hi-Fi systems sold in EU) and public concerts!!  So those of you that like pounding your brains with very loud "drum and base" (or similar) your are likely to be very disappointed in the future.

[zagblorg]

I'm quite pleased with my 5800 XM so far, having had it for a couple of weeks.  I don't think testing it with the supplied headphones is really very representative of its quality as with all portable devices the headphones supplied are not the best quality. 

I've tried out my 5800 with my Senneheiser PMX200s and Skullcandy iCons and the sound through both is comparable to my iPod Nano. Listened to some fairly bass-heavy hip-hop, industrial and metal on it and it all sounds great.

Haven't found the loudness to be an issue, but I don't like to have my headphones turned up too loud anyways.  The sound is generally better quality at lower volumes and I like to be able to hear things!