[sapporobaby]

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11-Sep-200709:08 PM
vmoisa wrote:


Yes, I do. 6310i battery was lasting for one week, E90's is lasting less than one day! Why care about the batery capacity ? I care about how much it lasts.

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Your lack of mobile telephony experience is showing again. You are comparing a mono-color 16 bit screen to a 16 million color screen. Doh!!!!!!!! Please stop before you hurt yourself. You can not really be that clueless. Then again maybe you are.

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11-Sep-200709:08 PM
vmoisa wrote:
Well, they are journalists, not businessmen. Never the less, you have picked up a very bad example:

The guy clearly never used a E90, he just tested it. And as soon as he will start typing anything on E90 (he is a journalist, he has to write something), he will discovered what all of us have learned the hard way: keyboard is stiff as hell, there are no shortcuts and Quickoffice is a joke. We will talk again after this experience...

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The only example that is good enough for you is one whining and complaining. That is all you come here for is to vent and blame. Here is a solution to all your problems.

1. Get a mirror.
2. Look into mirror.
3. Point finger at person in mirror.
4. Say: "this is the source of all my problems".
5. Say this until you believe it and then do something about it.

After this we can then talk.

[dom_dom]

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11-Sep-200709:39 PM
sapporobaby wrote:

Do journalists count as "real" business people?

http://citmedia.org/blog/2007/09/02/nokia-e90s-enormous-potential-in-journalism/

Message Edited by sapporobaby on 11-Sep-200708:43 PM

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Here is an extract of your article : Despite the Nokia E90 not being officially available in the USA
How can you tell us they can give a positive feedback as they still do NOT have it !

Again, articles written before I received mine are "Nokia's marketing blabla".

Domdom

[sapporobaby]

dom_dom,

Have you ever been at the GSM in Cannes or Madrid? These are marketing events but the press is given FULL (and I mean FULL) access to these phones.

[dom_dom]

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11-Sep-200710:22 PM
sapporobaby wrote:

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Sorry, but NO.

I'm a IT senior consultant and don't have any time to spent in such event.

Sorry for that,
Domdom

[vmoisa]

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11-Sep-200709:18 PM
sapporobaby wrote:
1. Get a mirror.
2. Look into mirror.
3. Point finger at person in mirror.
4. Say: "this is the source of all my problems".
5. Say this until you believe it and then do something about it.

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So, Nokia did a sub-standard product, I have paid good money TO NOKIA for it, and still I am to blaim. Instead of getting an answer, a FW up-date, something, I am getting injuries from somebody who clearly works for Nokia...

sapporobaby, please get off our backs. You do not have argumens, you do not provide information, you just want everybody to shut up. Are you about to get fired if we don't ?

[sapporobaby]

Ah, okay. I just sent you a PM, or well am writing it now. If you do not see it in 5 mins, wait 10.

[sapporobaby]

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11-Sep-200709:28 PM
vmoisa wrote:
So, Nokia did a sub-standard product, I have paid good money TO NOKIA for it, and still I am to blaim. Instead of getting an answer, a FW up-date, something,

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You paid money for not testing a product or even doing research. That actually makes you kind of, well dumb in most cases. To blame someone, and it could be SE, Motorola, Ford, Daimler, etc... makes you look even dumber.

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11-Sep-200709:28 PM
vmoisa wrote:
I am getting injuries from somebody who clearly works for Nokia...

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You have out done yourself with an even dumber statement. I mentioned a few pages back that I work for the State Department. Even your best friend Amanda5 who "never" says anything derogatory had to make a snide comment about that. In your fits, rants, and rages do you sometimes blackout? I will say it again, and go slowly for you as I seem to be moving tooo quickly. I do not work for Nokia. Just because I do not buy into your "buy it and blame" game does not mean that I think Nokia is the worlds greatest phone maker. They have faults with the E90 that I am waiting to see fixed as well. The difference is, I do not get up in the morning, drink a glass of hater-aide, then look at my E90 which cost $1000 and suddenly blame someone else for my colossal screw up. Notice the difference. Now go back to the mirror, clearly there is plenty of work left to do.

[sapporobaby]

For all you shortcut fans:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/software/item/SoftKey_Plus_3rd_v2.php

[twopuds]

sapporobaby

Well said, thats by far the best and most truthfull post on this forum!!
There seems to be too many people who simply did not do their homework before parting with their cash and now want to blame everyone else.

[sapporobaby]

Thanks Mr.twopuds,

I am not trying to slam the guy but you (he actually) has to face the facts that no one made him buy the phone. It has faults and for the most part, Nokia will fix them.

[vmoisa]

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11-Sep-200709:41 PM
sapporobaby wrote:
You paid money for not testing a product or even doing research.

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You talk about research, but you are unable to provide at least one link to a bad Nokia review. Put your money where your mouth is !

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11-Sep-200709:41 PM
sapporobaby wrote:
I mentioned a few pages back that I work for the State Department.

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So, if you do not work for Nokia, how do you know FOR SURE that there will be no fax, there will be no development on S80, the S60 is the way to go ? If you still claim you do not work for Nokia, stop telling these thing, as there is no possible way for you to know FOR SURE. Or maybe the State Deparment owns Nokia ?

[sapporobaby]

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11-Sep-200710:40 PM
vmoisa wrote:


You talk about research, but you are unable to provide at least one link to a bad Nokia review. Put your money where your mouth is !

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Why don't you post the link you were so proud of a week ago that was torn to shreds. I am not doing your homework for you. I have my E90 that I am happy with. You are the one that paid $1000 and can figure out how to use a search engine.

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11-Sep-200710:40 PM
vmoisa wrote:

So, if you do not work for Nokia, how do you know FOR SURE that there will be no fax, there will be no development on S80, the S60 is the way to go ? If you still claim you do not work for Nokia, stop telling these thing, as there is no possible way for you to know FOR SURE.

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Are you impaired or something? Maybe medication of some sort that distorts your reality? I have said it a few times that I have friends at Nokia. Is this too fast for you? It is mixed in this thread, another thread and so on. What is so hard about this for you little buddy? Second, I do not have to stop saying anything as long as the mods don't say anything and surely I can say whatever I want as long as you continue to post clinically certifiable **bleep**.

Case in point:

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11-Sep-200710:40 PM
vmoisa wrote:
Or maybe the State Deparment owns Nokia ?

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Pathetic comes to mind. For the sake of argument, let's assume this was a joke because if not, guess who looks silly? Back to the mirror with you matey.

[twopuds]

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11-Sep-200710:38 PM
sapporobaby wrote:
Thanks Mr.twopuds,

I am not trying to slam the guy but you (he actually) has to face the facts that no one made him buy the phone. It has faults and for the most part, Nokia will fix them.

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It just cant belive that people so dependant on a product just go out and buy somthing without looking at the facts, there has been loads of info on this device on the web long before it became avalible, maybe some buy for the status of having latest model then moan, we tried device at trade shows and with dealer, looked at info on web and made an educated buisiness decision based on the facts before buying knowing it met our needs. Very happy thanks!

[sapporobaby]

Tada!!!!! Another happy customer.

I did the same thing. I read, researched, talked to people. Went to the showroom. Paid money. Got EXACTLY what I was expecting. EXACTLY.

Let's both be happy knowing that we can ask questions before giving out $1000 and then moaning about it.

Now dom_dom and coolwater(sorry if wrong) have real gripes and I can sympathize, but they do not start moaning threads then go from thread to venting thread crying about the same thing.

Message Edited by sapporobaby on 11-Sep-200711:06 PM

[twopuds]

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11-Sep-200711:04 PM
sapporobaby wrote:
Tada!!!!! Another happy customer.

I did the same thing. I read, researched, talked to people. Went to the showroom. Paid money. Got EXACTLY what I was expecting. EXACTLY.

Let's both be happy knowing that we can ask questions before giving out $1000 and then moaning about it.

Now dom_dom and coolwater(sorry if wrong) have real gripes and I can sympathize, but they do not start moaning threads then go from thread to venting thread crying about the same thing.

Message Edited by sapporobaby on 11-Sep-200711:06 PM

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Yes I'm very happy, sorry to go against the grain of this forum, and just another point, but some people have made the claim of not having the time to try the e90 at a dealer first but seem to have more than enough time to moan on this forum.

[wolf666]

I am onother one, happy of his E90. I wait for some minor FW fix. I am writing from my device while I am waiting for my flight, great wifi, great keyboard and screen.

Message Edited by wolf666 on 12-Sep-200712:08 AM

[sapporobaby]

Ohhhhh, better not say you like it. You might the "I paid for a device I did not test" crowd coming down on you.

[vmoisa]

Sapporobaby, please stop once and for all this nonsense about testing the phone in advance and documenting about it:

1. It is impossible to test the phone is a shop. Even if this would be possible (and so many told you it is not), nobody could spot in the shop that GPS is extremely slow (nobody will let you go outside with the phone for 30 minutes, not even at an exhibition), that E90 cannot open more than one message in the same time (there would be no messages in the phone), and so on and so forth.

2. There was no review prior to E90 release to tell anything bad about E90 (except for the fax and even that was unclear) Nobody had the time to use the phone in advance, just test it a litle bit, so the reviews were all positive. Nobody spotted the half-multitasking problem. And yes, you patronizing one, I do have Internet in my country and I did read everything about E90 for so much time before I got it.

3. None of the issues identified by me and others are not in the manual. Please let me know on what page the manual say the real TTFF of the GPS, the fact that Messaging is unable to show more than one message, that the shortucts are missing for most applications, and so on. And yes, I did read the manual in advance.

Oh yeah, you cannot stop this because you would be without arguments, wouldn't you ?

I am beginning to get the picture about you: you either do not really use the phone (on so many post you said you do not have the phone with you - how is this even possible ?), or just convinced yourself that it is great and do everything in your power to go arround all its shortcommings.

[turo]

So, Nokia did a sub-standard product, I have paid good money TO NOKIA for it, and still I am to blaim. Instead of getting an answer, a FW up-date, something,
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You paid money for not testing a product or even doing research. That actually makes you kind of, well dumb in most cases.
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no one made him buy the phone. It has faults and for the most part, Nokia will fix them.
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This is very strange indeed.. Should paying customers now do the testing and recearch for Nokia?

sapporobaby, is there any written docs from Nokia, that will inform dropped features, worse multitasking, lower usability vs old Communicator line? If communicator is released, that where it should be compared.

Be realistic. If nokia informs this is S60, most people don't know what is S60. So Customer is dum to trust for Nokia? Who will use days to analyse product they are buing? If in box there is a name Communicator and Nokia, it should cuarantee features introduced for Communicators?

[sapporobaby]

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12-Sep-200707:55 AM
vmoisa wrote:
Sapporobaby, please stop once and for all this nonsense about testing the phone in advance and documenting about it:

1. It is impossible to test the phone is a shop. Even if this would be possible (and so many told you it is not), nobody could spot in the shop that GPS is extremely slow (nobody will let you go outside with the phone for 30 minutes, not even at an exhibition), that E90 cannot open more than one message in the same time (there would be no messages in the phone), and so on and so forth.

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Who spend $1000 and does not even pick up the phone to look at it. A word comes to mind but I will not say it.

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12-Sep-200707:55 AM
vmoisa wrote:
2. There was no review prior to E90 release to tell anything bad about E90 (except for the fax and even that was unclear) Nobody had the time to use the phone in advance, just test it a litle bit, so the reviews were all positive. Nobody spotted the half-multitasking problem. And yes, you patronizing one, I do have Internet in my country and I did read everything about E90 for so much time before I got it.

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You did, and you still bought it? Case close. Check and mate. You got what you paid for. Your own words.

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12-Sep-200707:55 AM
vmoisa wrote:
3. None of the issues identified by me and others are not in the manual. Please let me know on what page the manual say the real TTFF of the GPS, the fact that Messaging is unable to show more than one message, that the shortucts are missing for most applications, and so on. And yes, I did read the manual in advance.

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Did you really write this statement. I will let you take it back and think about it again before you hit the enter key.

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12-Sep-200707:55 AM
vmoisa wrote:
Oh yeah, you cannot stop this because you would be without arguments, wouldn't you ?

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I will stop when you begin to make realist non-whining arguments and to begin to back up what you say with a fact and not some convoluted idea. Having an opinion is a good thing and welcomed but you pass your opinions off as fact and I will shoot them down everytime.

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12-Sep-200707:55 AM
vmoisa wrote:
I am beginning to get the picture about you: you either do not really use the phone (on so many post you said you do not have the phone with you - how is this even possible ?), or just convinced yourself that it is great and do everything in your power to go arround all its shortcommings.

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Only now are you getting a picture? I have had a picture of you from post one. A serial complainer that has nothing better in life than your phone. A constant complainer that has nothing more in life than to take things out of context, to twist and infer things never said, to pass off opinion as fact, and to be a blame disperal agent. This the picture you portray, in my opinion.