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I wish a New 9500i communicator

Sage
Posts: 86

I wish a New 9500i communicator

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Hello folks,

I wish there will be a New 9500i communicator like what nokia did with 9300i but with faster CPU!!!

Here what I wish for the next 9500i

1. Faster CPU.
2. Flash 8 support at least.
3. 3G support.
4. Firmware can be downloaded from the website like i-mate.
5. Restart/reset button, and power off for the whole communicator.
6. Notification tone when WIFI network detected.

Thank you,

-Arabian
WeArab Network

Message Edited by wearabnet on 28-Dec-2005
06:58 AM

Arabian
We Arab Portal Network http://www.WeArab.Net/
Phones: 9300i, E70, N80, 6670, 6280, and 6111
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New Member
Posts: 4

Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

So do I.

Please Nokia, will someone tell us if one is coming. Considering you cannot buy a 9500 anywhere as far as I can tell, it can't do any harm to keep us informed on this and stop us migrating to some other smartphone maker, can it?

Michael
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New Member
Posts: 1

Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

Good ideas, many problems so far i had encounter with the phone but i still like this phone, if NOKIA can really upgrade it compare with other new PDA phones. I still stick to it because of the fax feature that i need it very much. I have sent my phone 3 times for repair and they already changed 2 sets to me with new IMEI.
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Mobile Guru
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Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

this is a pretty silly thread. have you seen the e-series at all? they pretty much do all this and are smaller...
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Counsellor
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Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

Not everyone likes 'smaller'. Despite all the problems in operation the basic format of the 9500 is a good one. Faster would be nice, more reliable would be better. I agree with reset and off buttons. Improved battery life. Sort out the synch issues for dates and contact duplication. Downloadable firmware is a good idea, not new or rocket science either!
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Counsellor
Posts: 67

Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

I doubt NOKIA will ever offer downloadable firmware updates, they make too much doing it themselves, plus if happen to screw it up during warrenty it leaves then with having to spend money to sort/replace the handset
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Contributor
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Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

I have had exactly the same experience. The 9500 is woefully underpowered in every way & the sync function seems to be pure fiction !
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Professor
mobile_maniac
Posts: 497

Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

If you have an issue with the sync, maybe you should start a new thread if you actually want to get it sorted out.

Sync works fine on the 9500... I had the 9500 for a while and was using it the whole time.
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New Member
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Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

I have given up with PC Suite Sync. Too many times it ended up duplicating my Contacts because of incompatibility with Outlook formats, and then I had to go in and remove 1,000 of the duplicate entries.

I have at last got the settings right for syncing with RoadSync by DataViz; not, I have to say through their advice, although they tried very hard, and for some months, in the friendliest manner. I occasionally get bad syncs, but basically it works, and the great thing is it works remotely and with push email.

One big point is to switch off PCSuite totally, which I am happy to do as it is still a fairly primitive piece of software when you are interfacing Microsoft Office with a Nokia 9500.

If you would like the precise DataViz settings I will be happy to post them.
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Sage
Posts: 86

Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator


17-Apr-2006
07:51 PM
seraphim wrote:
this is a pretty silly thread. have you seen the e-series at all? they pretty much do all this and are smaller...



I own E70 now, and it's great and stuff but, I still prefer the size of Nokia 9500 and the great keyboard and screen :smileywink:

So any news about new Commy with faster CPU and 3G support?

Thank you,

-Arabian
We Arab Portal Network
Arabian
We Arab Portal Network http://www.WeArab.Net/
Phones: 9300i, E70, N80, 6670, 6280, and 6111
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Advisor
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Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

I have used my 9500 for Internet access and GPRS is to slow, a new model that supports 3G would be the thing, to get that I've switched to an N70 but miss the big screen and keyboard.
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Professor
bigguy
Posts: 579

Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

I agree with all those who desire an improved 9500, I got rid of mine for an N80 but I do miss that keyboard and nice big internal screen.Btw, could we also have 3Mp camera and wap from cover phone? If there is an improved 9500 (or similar) on the way I'll put my order in now!
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Sage
Posts: 86

Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

I wish new commy will use Symbian OS 9.3 with S60 3rd API too but keeps the same feel and look of commy
Arabian
We Arab Portal Network http://www.WeArab.Net/
Phones: 9300i, E70, N80, 6670, 6280, and 6111
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Professor
bigguy
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Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

Me too wearabnet, as I said, would love another commy but I'll wait to see if updated model comes out. I know E series do much the same but the communicator is like a little laptop as much as it is a phone.
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New Member
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Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

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This seems to me the most appropriate place to comment on the 9500, as I can't see a way to give feedback to Nokia directly. Sorry if it's a biggie, but I've been thinking about it for a while.

I recently had my 9110 stolen, so I decided to 'upgrade' the replacement to the 9500.

In most respects the 9500 is a far superior device, thanks to the many extra technologies employed (Bluetooth, Wi-fi and GPRS, to name the most useful ones). Also, the way things work are often improved, e.g. the calendar function and in particular event repetition is much more flexible and thus useful.

However, it saddens me to notice how the 9500 has taken some steps backward compared to the humble 9110. Namely :

- keyboard shortcuts vary greatly between applications, making them far harder to remember and consequently almost useless.*

- there is no longer support for such tremendously convenient keyboard shortcuts as {Chr}-{arrow} allowing movement as page up/down, or to beginning or end of line. This is particularly frustrating when trying to navigate through long lists like the communication log or contact list.

- nor is {Ctrl}-'backspace' supported, another very useful shortcut to delete whole words at a time.

- there are no square brackets (i.e. '[' and ']' ) on the keyboard nor within the 'Chr' functionality - at least not in the Italian version; a serious omission in my view.

- when preparing messages for sending, but off-line (phone off, or out of network coverage), on the 9110 the messages would go into the outbox and wait for when a connection was available - i.e. the communicator was 'aware' of the phone component's status. On the 9500, there is no awareness, the communicator blindly fires messages in the outbox at the phone regardless of whether connected to the network or not, and after a few failed attempts it gives up completely. To my mind this is a serious retrograde step.

- when writing/editing anything that goes beyond one screen (documents, faxes et c.), the on-screen position of the caret often does not reflect the real position in the text. The result is that inputs/deletions can take place on the wrong line in the real text, even though all looks fine on the display. When a screen refresh is forced, you get to see the real text again and that the input/deletion has occurred on the wrong line. Incredible, but true. The problem can be avoided by scrolling up and down the text a lot after every bit of editing, in order to force a screen refresh, but this is obviously inefficient.

*: these problems are to me a result of having separate teams developing different applications, therefore the fault lies with lack of control and direction by management.

One suggestion for future improvement that should be considered, is allowing 2 SIM cards to be placed in the device. Many people travel most often between just two countries and of course it makes sense to change the SIM card over for each country. This procedure has always been an annoyance as the battery has to be removed. It would be far better to be able to select the SIM card in use, through software control. Such a feature would also be attractive to people living in countries with poor network coverage, in which case having 2 SIMs of the same country would allow easy switching to whichever SIM has network coverage, maybe even automatically.

This is a heartfelt wish for improvement of the communicator, WITHOUT already useful features being lost by the wayside. If you gain some while you lose some, you're not really moving forwards, only sideways.

The communicator has always been superior to devices such as PDAs with entirely pen-operated software-only keyboards. I have won over at least two people to adopting the communicator, instead of PDAs.

However, a close friend of mine and devoted communicator fan, has recently found favour with a new PDA which includes a proper keyboard, so it's the best of both worlds : a concealed, proper keyboard revealed by lifting the cover, and a large screen cover which can be twisted to be on the 'inside' or the 'outside' - if that makes sense! There are also a number of features of this PDA which the communicator lacks, but could presumably have, which might make more people ditch their communicators.

I'm sure it's hard to lead all the time. All I can say is : keep cramming in features - but don't forget your roots! Existing features should be ADDED TO, NOT SUBSTITUTED.

I get the impression Nokia are taking notes from Microsoft and its maxim of style over substance, wow-factor over reliability. In the long run, you risk losing a hard-earned reputation for quality, something very hard to gain again.

Best regards and good luck

Ulric Schwela


EDIT: removed contat details

Message Edited by karim on 14-Jul-2006
11:15 AM

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Professor
mobile_maniac
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Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator


14-Jul-2006
10:14 AM
iperboreano wrote:
This seems to me the most appropriate place to comment on the 9500, as I can't see a way to give feedback to Nokia directly.



If you want to give Nokia feedback, you could do it from here
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Mobile Visionary
Posts: 805

Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

wearabnet, the communicators are series 80 devices, so they cannot use series 60 features (it requires hardware as well as software).

if the s80 platform is updated, i would assume it will use the next version of symbian. but right now, it looks like nokia would like everyone to own s60 devices...
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Professor
bigguy
Posts: 579

Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

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Then why not port series 60 to future versions of the communicator? The platform is a very capable one and could quite easily perform all of the tasks a series 80 phone can. BTW, why couldn't it have series 60 on cover phone? after all the current versions of communicators use series 40 interface on the cover and series 80 inside. Just a thought.

Message Edited by bigguy on 14-Jul-2006
02:08 PM

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Mobile Guru
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Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator


14-Jul-2006
02:07 PM
bigguy wrote:
Then why not port series 60 to future versions of the communicator? The platform is a very capable one and could quite easily perform all of the tasks a series 80 phone can. BTW, why couldn't it have series 60 on cover phone? after all the current versions of communicators use series 40 interface on the cover and series 80 inside. Just a thought.

Message Edited by bigguy on 14-Jul-2006
02:08 PM





i think having a s60 phone on the fron could be a bit of a waste. things like series 60 and 80 are not so much about power and features, but the way the phone is designed.

all s60 phones are designed with certain features in mind, the five way joystick, the two soft option buttons, the pencil key etc. series 80 are defined by the screen, the keyboard and the four soft option buttons on the big screen.

you will see there is a s90, thats the 7710. here it just defines the huge touch screen on the front.

inside, the phones are all pretty much the same and all pretty much use the same version of symbian.

i think the only difference is the e61 right now. i would imagine nokia will make a new communicator - they seem to take time between releases for them.
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Professor
bigguy
Posts: 579

Re: I wish a New 9500i communicator

Hi seraphim, thanks for the comments, I think you are quite in what you say but I think for a device with as much cutting edge tech' on the inside it has a rather too modest cover phone. And if the communicators' history is anything to go by we still have a couple of years to go for a new model.
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