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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

If you feel that your phone is getting too hot, do not hesitate to take it into a Nokia Care point to have it looked at.
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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

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Hi guys,

 

I am thinking aobut to buy the E71 now for several months (simply for the design - I just love it) - but I have read a lot about the signal problem.

 

That is the reason why I didn´t buy it yet.

 

Do you think that there´s a chance that Nokia gets the problem under control the next weeks?

 

Now E63 is out, and I´ve heard from a lot of people, that with this device the signal problem is gone. I like E63, too, but a little bit more I tend to E71 because of its metal accents. 

 

Do you think it makes sense to buy a E71 the next weeks? I want to buy it in red or black, in Europe these versions are said to be available at the beginning of march.

 

Or do you think I should by E63, have good reception and save a lot of money?? 

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thundertiger
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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

I have an E71-2 NAM version and I have had no signal problems or the phone becoming hot by the camera (knock on wood) :smileysurprised:

 

I can only surmise that they had a bad batch of E71's go out.  But there is a hardware difference in mine due to the different 3G frequencies (850/1900) compared to the E71-1 and E71-3

E71-2 Grey Steel
type: RM-357 code: 0569371 FW: 410.21.010
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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

Is E71-1 the European version? Or E71-3?

 

I would really love to buy an E71, but I am really afraid of this reception "bug"....

 

 

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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

hi sleepybee, 

     you better wait until all e71 issues had been resolved buying this phone.. 

    

      at first I was too excited 'bout this phone, but I started to get mad at it when I found out that it has a

     lot of bugs (e.g video losing sound, poor signal, files missing in gallery / memory often times can't be read)

 

     i really wish nokia would realize that they should act immediately and fix all these bugs

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

Hello All,

 

If you guys remember that about 2 months ago Nokia replaced my Nokia E71 after so many issues.

 

I have the same issue back again. I took it to Nokia Care and they are asking me to give the phone for service and will take 3 weeks to get this resloved.

 

What do you guys think ? 

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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

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Hello All,

 

I have created a Feedback Form which I would like to report on and see how many of us have this issue

 

URL: http://www.kwiksurveys.com/online-survey.php?surveyID=KCELK_ab33beac

 

Please fill up the feedback form 

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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

Hi at all,

 

thanks for your advice, I haven´t bought a E71 yet and I won´t buy it in future.

 

I don´t want to have this strange reception bug, because a phone is primarily a device to make calls with - and if I am not able to make calls due to bad reception I don´t need a phone. :smileywink:

 

That´s that and I´m waiting now for E55... :smileyhappy: 

 

 

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Counsellor
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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

Thanks for your Feedback. I had posted this link in other places and I have total reponse of 689 Nokia E71 users. and 53 users were Anonymous

 

Most of the users are allready on the second E71 Handset which they got replaced - Users who have got the link for second set of questions - Due Date is March 15 2009

 

I will be sending feedback the  Nokia sometime this week. As I said no details of you name / phone number / email address would be given to Nokia - Just the feedback

 

Quick Facts - I will have a PPT shared in SlideShare on this soon.

  1. Are you Happy with Nokia E71 ? Our Results shows that about 56% of users say that they are unhappy and willing to change to a Non-Nokia Phone. We did follow-up on 100 users and most of them say that they started hateing Nokia after E71
  2. Are you Happy with Signal in your Nokia E71 ? Our Results shows that about 78 % users are having Signal issues.
  3. How Many Signal Do you get normally ? Our Results shows that about 67% users say its less than 3 bars
  4. Are you Facing Signal Issues and that is causing issues with Push Email, GPS Lock ? Our Results shows that about 81.6% users are having issues with GPRS because of signal.

Thanks for your Support - Its time Nokia gets to Action and gets these issues fixed.

 

Regards,

Satish Kumar

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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

I'm really glad you're not letting this just slide by. I wish you the best of luck!
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Re: E71 Signal Problem +++++hot+++no gps fix

Mmm I hope you realize that people only post when they have a problem. I'm one of those people who have no such problems with their E71, so I never knew about your survey (which contains weighted questions - it wouldn't fly in real life). I bet there are millions more with perfectly-working E71s that don't know about your survey, because I'm guessing you only posted it to forums where people are complaining.

 

Look at it this way. If you started a survey inside a hospital waiting room asking everyone who walks in if they're sick, you're gonna get more people saying yes, because that's where sick people go.

 

 

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sidharrtha
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Re: E71 Signal Problem

Hello Guys,

 

I am a Vodafone user from Gujarat and ever since i started using E71, the signal problem has bugged me. Till recently i.e. before i read this tread, i thought it was a problem with the service provider and i was in serious consideration to change my number of 7 years.

 

But now after reading the thread i feel its a problem of the handset. I feel cheated that nokia does not have an efficient system in line to call back such faulty handsets. I feel they are just letting customers use thr faulty handset till they find out about it.

 

I have been a Nokia patron all my life and have spent over 2 lakh rupees on Nokia phones, I have had a wonderfull experience with Nokia in the past and I appreciate that after calling their head-quarters in Finland, the people at bangalore on behest of Finland HQ gave me a new handset (without the battery.. the battery was same old).

 

I hope if this phone is faulty and they can give me a replacement.  

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sidharrtha
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Re: E71 Signal Problem

I tried a few things in the settings and there is considerable improvement almost 35 to 40 % :

 

1. Fixed the network mode to GSM instead of Dual Mode

2. Cell Info Display - Off

3. Operator selection - Manual  

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ralminov
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Re: E71 Signal Problem

May be we are some lucky people. We don't have similar problems here in the Middle East. May be a problem with APAC version or a batch or a problem with GSM  connection. We have 3G/HSDPA here. I have full network reception here in the 3G network.

 

Nokia must learn to fix the basics first. 

 

N80 IE, E51, E71
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Re: E71 Signal Problem

I recently bought this phone in Bangalore and having the same issues. Checked the model. Its e71-1.

 

Really repenting as to why did I buy this without going through this forum. If anyone of you get a solution, please inform me as well.

 

Navin

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Re: E71 Signal Problem

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Same problem with me. I have the latest software available through Nokia PC software, which is for me: 200.21.118, my model is E71-1 (305.04), CODE: 0572762. I’m on T-Mobile, zone 2 in London. As it is, the phone is unusable for relialble making and receving calls and SMS. In terms of calls, it’s by a mile the worse phone i ever had. What a paradox, considering it’s the most capable one too, in terms of other functions. After 8th day, i had enough, i called buymobilephones.net who will send me a new one as soon as i return this one. If the problems persist i will insist on canceling the contract, since this phone can not be used to deliver the service that one buys with the contract.

 

T-Mobile support suggested that i switch to GSM, instead of Dual, which seemed to helped a bit. I did Manual network selection as suggested above. Cell Info Display is off too.

 

Overall, as soon as I pick up the phone in my house it losses all signal bars. That is if i stand near the window. If i'm few meters away from the windows, it has no bars to start with. What a joke. Couple of 1 and 2 years old Sony Ericsson phones  have 3/4 bars throughout the house, on the same network, with the same SIM.

 

This phone is not a phone and should have never reached consumers. How the hell can this pass any regulator tests? Or, can any junk be sold these days pretending to do something that it can't do?

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Re: E71 Signal Problem

Here's my Nokia E71 nightmare.

 

I got a Nokia E71 from Three Mobile (in the UK) on a contract.  Seemed like a good phone with TONNES of features, I was very happy indeed.

 

About a month after getting it I first noticed something peculiar.  When I was in my house, the signal would drop to nothing (for no apparant reason, the phone hadn't been moved and nothing had obstructed it).  More worryingly, when the signal dropped to nothing it wouldn't improve again.  I could walk outside and hold the phone directly near the main antenna and nothing, no signal.  Then, if I did a manual network search it'd find the signal and I'd have a really GOOD signal.  Take it back into my house, good signal.  Sit it down, good signal.  Check it every few minutes, good signal.  When I least expect it, the signal drops to zero again and does not improve unless I manually search.  Repeat ad nausium.

 

As this was the first time I'd noticed this I phoned three to find out what was going on, I was told there was some 'maintainance in the area' and that they'd send an engineer to check the signal strength.  They, straight away, blamed the signal.  I waited a week but no improvement, so I rang them back, they told me the same thing, saying that because it was only in my house I had the problem it was not a handset issue.  This I found particularly strange because I had another handset with exactly the same SIM and it worked brilliantly in the house, and when I put a pay-as-you-go sim in the Nokia E71 the signal problems were the same.... the sim wasn't the problem, the signal wasn't the problem, to me it was clear: the handset was the problem.  BUT, being a good customer I decided to let them send another engineer and waited another week.

 

In that week I observed my phone in other places.  In Manchester (the third largest city in England) city centre I noticed the same thing happened, the signal would just drop (although not to zero) for a while then improve again... even if the phone was stationary and there were no obstructions.  On the bus it'd drop right down, but recover.... it seemed to be just in my house (where the signal was a tiny bit weaker anyway) that it'd drop down below some critical threshold such that it couldn't recover... that was until I noticed it drop in my office and not recover.  Now I had TWO postcodes with the same problem, so I phoned three back to find out what was going on.

 

I was told it was a signal problem, nothing wrong with the handset.  Then the person on the phone let slip that this handset does have a slightly weaker signal overall, and that there is a firmware update coming soon to fix it.  Strange, I thought, so I decided to give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

Then I missed a really important call because my phone had lost signal, this was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.  I decided enough was enough and called them back, saying the phone WAS faulty.  I explained that hundreds of people shared the problem, and that it was unacceptable for them to provide a phone with known faults.  I was told that I would get a call back.

 

In the meantime, I experimented a bit with the settings and noticed that the customer firmware approved by three didn't allow the phone to connect by GSM.  It ONLY allowed a UMTS connection.  It seems to me that when the phone loses its 3g signal it begins to look for a GSM signal, only for that signal to be forbidden by the firmware, so it gets stuck in a loop at that point.  I might be wrong, but that's how it appears to me.

 

Anyway, when three rang back they offered me two alternative handsets, a Nokia 6220 or an LG Viewty.  Neither of these phones provide wifi support.  It seems I would be 'downgrading' from a Nokia E71 to a phone with fewer features!  I (rather obviously) said I wasn't happy with that and that I require a phone with wifi and with GPS (the two big reasons why I got a contract with three with the Nokia E71 in the first place).  They went away, a week later I rang them to ask them what was going on and they told me they could also offer me a Nokia E63, but I'd have to pay an additional £60 AND I'd have to extend the contract by another six months!  The Nokia E63 doesn't have GPS!  So I'd be downgrading my phone, paying more and extending my contract all to get a reliable signal?  I don't think so.

 

I just finished on the phone speaking to the three customer services call centre manager, who told me three have no responsibility to provide a replacement phone with any more features than the ability to make and receive phone calls, and that it was the only solution they could offer me.  I have escallated it further, because this is absolutely crazy.

 

I'm not sure where I stand legally but if, when I'm called back in under 24 hours, a solution isn't found I will be seeking legal advice.  I feel as though I've been deceived by three.

 

So, when I come to forums like this and the advice is to set the phone to a GSM only signal I get very upset.  I can't do that, it's forbidden on my phone.  All I can do is leave my phone by the window with the bottom pointing directly at the mast and hope that I don't lose signal.  I have to check it every half hour or so, roughly half of the time I have to manually select the network again.

 

My advice so far: DO NOT GO WITH THREE.  DO NOT GET A NOKIA E71.

 

Question: if I 'rebrand' my phone (not sure if its legal or not but it's only software so I can't see why not) to upgrade the firmware to the latest version, will that help?

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Re: E71 Signal Problem


 

Question: if I 'rebrand' my phone (not sure if its legal or not but it's only software so I can't see why not) to upgrade the firmware to the latest version, will that help?


 

What firmware are you running currently? Dial *#0000# to find that out. As I recall, there MIGHT have been a few improvements to the signal strenght n some software updates.

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mccbleue
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Re: E71 Signal Problem


mawkish1983 wrote:

 

Question: if I 'rebrand' my phone (not sure if its legal or not but it's only software so I can't see why not) to upgrade the firmware to the latest version, will that help?


Debranding is not allowed to be discussed here because it invalidates the warranty of the phone. It's not illegal, but at the same time not always advisable as you could do more damage to the phone than you cure.

 

There were some issues with the E71 originally with signals, as far as I can tell these have been solved (or at least improved) with software updates. However, 3 are notorious for not bothering to approve updates to their branded versions of the phones.

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Contributor
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Re: E71 Signal Problem

The phone is using 100.07.76 (yes, I know we're on version 300ish now, but as someone said, three are TERRIBLE for updating the firmware... the only way for me to update it would be for me to do what is not allowed to be discussed, and I'm not really prepared to do it).

 

I've been looking at the Nokia 6220, I'm almost tempted to put up with the lack of wifi (which I need when I go abroad), but I just don't know... it feels like a downgrade!

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