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Re: N95 - Bluetooth restrictions with Audi, BMW, Toyota, VW,...
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shuntfield 
Mobile Visionary
Posts: 1332
South Wales UK, Nokia E72-1
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Its not that nokia and the car companies dont talk. Its the fact that Symbian handsets are missing the Phone Book Access profile, and hence the cars are unable to call the phonebook from the phone. This is why they dont work.
What ***NOKIA*** need to do in their next software release for the N95 is ***ADD*** the Phonebook Access Profile. When its added, then it will work.
The Newer Audi Kits, such as on the Q7 - use the SIM access profile, which the N95 Supports.
I disagree that Nokia fully test their accessories with the handsets, I know of a number of Nokia Accessories that are incompatible.
Two Examples:
Nokia N95 and BH-900 Bluetooth Headset - Sound Quality bad.
Nokia 6230 (early software) and CK-7W - Causes CK-7w amplifier to Clip causing sound quality problems.
Shunts...Message Edited by shuntfield on 31-Aug-200711:30 AM
I will mostly be communicating with a Nokia E72 Zodium BlackNokia E72-1 with Vr 021.024.207.01 Software If this post helped... Add some kudos!! 
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31-Aug-2007 11:27 AM
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Re: N95 - Bluetooth restrictions with Audi, BMW, Toyota, VW,...
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dfulgo
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Hi Shuntfield, I'm not sure about that. I've the same problem with N95 and the latest version of BT module installed on my 07 ML 320, MB states the following:
"High-end telephony: the second generation of the Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (SAP) telephone module offers even more possibilities.
The familiar Bluetooth® telephone module with SAP (SIM Access Profile) technology can now also be used with the Nokia business-optimised E60, E61 and E70 mobile phones."
...guess what? It doesen't work, it pairs, I receive and make calls but no contacts download, no history calls etc. I'm just looking for an opportunity to test one of such E series devices but, honestly, I'm pessimist.
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31-Aug-2007 11:49 AM
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Re: N95 - Bluetooth restrictions with Audi, BMW, Toyota, VW,...
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dfulgo
Counsellor
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...yeah, then again, Bluetooth is a standard for everybody except NOKIA.
The funny part of it is that if you ask them, they suggest you a to buy a different CAR, you know, that's not their problem as far as there is no compatibility list written with gold ink on platinum paper and signed with blood.
As already said before, it's like if your car would go only with a certain "brand" of fuel...
Anyhow, the very same politic has been already followed by a certain company named IBM in the early 80's..., they've almost been forced to close down..., let's see what happens more than 20 years later...
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31-Aug-2007 02:01 PM
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Re: N95 - Bluetooth restrictions with Audi, BMW, Toyota, VW,...
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paula6
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Germany
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I agree with those sentiments indeed. If Nokia are so arrogant on something as simple as backward compatibility and customer satisfaction is so irrelevant where is that going to leave them 5 years from now? Okay, so right now they are the clear market leaders – but that is because people are currently buying their products. If people start to get unsatisfied with their products and that spreads that can change their status pretty quickly as IBM proved a couple of decades ago. Back then they had their work cut-out just surviving (I know because my brother is employed by IBM).
It is a sure road to disaster when companies start to ignore what the customers are saying. Like I’ve stated earlier, check the web, this problem with their Bluetooth incompatibility not just to Audi but lots of other makes of cars have been around for over 6 months. That shows a very impressive ability to ignore customer feed-back!
I started this thread just a few weeks ago, and looking at the number of hits it has had since then, I think it is safe to assume that there are a lot of people affected or atleast worried about his impairment.
So come on Nokia make our day and get your act together. When can we expect a fix for the S60 Symbian giving it the PBAP facility like its older brother S40?
Paul
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31-Aug-2007 03:53 PM
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Re: N95 - Bluetooth restrictions with Audi, BMW, Toyota, VW,...
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shuntfield
Mobile Visionary
Posts: 1332
South Wales UK, Nokia E72-1
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31-Aug-200711:49 AM
dfulgo wrote:
Hi Shuntfield, I'm not sure about that. I've the same problem with N95 and the latest version of BT module installed on my 07 ML 320, MB states the following:
"High-end telephony: the second generation of the Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (SAP) telephone module offers even more possibilities.
The familiar Bluetooth® telephone module with SAP (SIM Access Profile) technology can now also be used with the Nokia business-optimised E60, E61 and E70 mobile phones."
...guess what? It doesen't work, it pairs, I receive and make calls but no contacts download, no history calls etc. I'm just looking for an opportunity to test one of such E series devices but, honestly, I'm pessimist.
dfulgo, the phone is missing an Access Profile which prevents the car from pulling the data off the phone, because its missing on the phone the car cannot access it. The N95 does have SIM access profile, and it can be switched on in the Bluetooth Menu.
The SIM access profile means that the car has the GSM phone in it, it access the phones SIM card, and shuts the phone down, like a Virtual Bluetooth SIM card. This is different, if the Phonebook access is missing, then the car cannot pull the contents over to it, but everything else will work, as you state
As for the phones you mention then I dont know about those because I dont have one. I hope this helps
Shunts...
I will mostly be communicating with a Nokia E72 Zodium BlackNokia E72-1 with Vr 021.024.207.01 Software If this post helped... Add some kudos!!
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31-Aug-2007 09:57 PM
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Re: N95 - Bluetooth restrictions with Audi, BMW, Toyota, VW,...
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shuntfield
Mobile Visionary
Posts: 1332
South Wales UK, Nokia E72-1
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I just picked up my S3 this morning.
I have the 810 application installed on the N95 - and it copied my phone book in no problem.
The Voicemail and a few others dont work but the bulk of it is functioning.
Perhaps because its the newest version of the software in the car or the kit is slightly different.
Shunts...
I will mostly be communicating with a Nokia E72 Zodium BlackNokia E72-1 with Vr 021.024.207.01 Software If this post helped... Add some kudos!!
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01-Sep-2007 08:47 PM
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Re: N95 - Bluetooth restrictions with Audi, BMW, Toyota, VW,...
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shuntfield
Mobile Visionary
Posts: 1332
South Wales UK, Nokia E72-1
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Hi toot3954
Do you have the navigation system in your S3?
What you need to do is:
Install the Nokia 810 Push application onto your phone with the Nokia Suite.
If you dont have Nokia Suite Download it here: http://europe.nokia.com/A4144903
To get the Nokia 810 Push Application go here: http://europe.nokia.com/A4143881
Download and install the application: "Nokia 810 Contact Download Application for Nokia S60 3rd edition devices" If you are unsure how to install, there is also a Guide on that page to install it.
When you have the application on your phone, Delete the Bluetooth Pairing from BOTH the car and the phone.
Start the Download Application on the N95. Then when it is running in the background, pair the Bluetooth in the Phone to the car again, this should then initiate the transfer of the contacts.
Hope this helps.
Shunts...
I will mostly be communicating with a Nokia E72 Zodium BlackNokia E72-1 with Vr 021.024.207.01 Software If this post helped... Add some kudos!!
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13-Sep-2007 11:33 AM
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Re: N95 - Bluetooth BT-Version in Audi S3
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shuntfield
Mobile Visionary
Posts: 1332
South Wales UK, Nokia E72-1
Message 33 of 80
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Hi Paul
I'm guessing that the "AUDI UHV XXXX" where the X is the Version number?
Mine says "AUDI UHV 8993" on when paired. If not, can you let me know where to find it and I will post back.
The S3 was built Week 30/2007.
Hope this helps.
Shunts.Message Edited by shuntfield on 15-Sep-200709:37 PM
I will mostly be communicating with a Nokia E72 Zodium BlackNokia E72-1 with Vr 021.024.207.01 Software If this post helped... Add some kudos!!
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15-Sep-2007 09:37 PM
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